Author Topic: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana  (Read 67815 times)

Offline majm

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 25,385
  • NSW 1806 Bowman Flag Ecce signum.
    • View Profile
Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #180 on: Saturday 17 October 09 12:14 BST (UK) »
Hi David,

Hope the info I've just posted leads to another elimination of the possibles for Catharine McNally... and thanks for sorting the Mrs Ransom and the bushranger...

Cheers,

JM
The information in my posts is provided for academic and non-commercial research purposes. 
Random Acts of Kindness Given Freely are never Worthless for they are Priceless.
Qui scit et non docet.    Qui docet et non vivit.    Qui nescit et non interrogat.   
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
I do not have a face book or a twitter account.

Offline majm

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 25,385
  • NSW 1806 Bowman Flag Ecce signum.
    • View Profile
Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #181 on: Saturday 17 October 09 12:25 BST (UK) »
Bit More,

One of the lasses transported with this Catherine Woods was an Elizabeth Almond... who was also tried at same place, same day etc as this Catherine.

On the NAA website, A2A, there's both these lasses listed together as part of one prosecution in 1817... and a note that those documents (the bill for the cost of the prosecutions) are held at the Lancashire Records Office...

Cheers,

JM
The information in my posts is provided for academic and non-commercial research purposes. 
Random Acts of Kindness Given Freely are never Worthless for they are Priceless.
Qui scit et non docet.    Qui docet et non vivit.    Qui nescit et non interrogat.   
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
I do not have a face book or a twitter account.

Offline majm

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 25,385
  • NSW 1806 Bowman Flag Ecce signum.
    • View Profile
Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #182 on: Saturday 17 October 09 12:34 BST (UK) »
Bit More,

Catharine Woods and Elizabeth Almond both sentenced to 7 years for Larcency.... ( umm, on the Assizes records, its for Catharine with an A in the "right" spot !)

 :D  :D  :D

JM
The information in my posts is provided for academic and non-commercial research purposes. 
Random Acts of Kindness Given Freely are never Worthless for they are Priceless.
Qui scit et non docet.    Qui docet et non vivit.    Qui nescit et non interrogat.   
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
I do not have a face book or a twitter account.

Offline davclem

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 191
    • View Profile
Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #183 on: Saturday 17 October 09 13:17 BST (UK) »
I'm puzzled, JM. If Catharine Woods is in George Town in 1823, how relevant is she to CatharineMcNally/Mrs Ransom in Hobart in 1820  and donating to the Wesleyans there in 1823? Haven't you proved she is not our girl? But congratulations on the research anyway.David
Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820


Online Wiggy

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 9,443
  • coloured by Gadget
    • View Profile
Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #184 on: Saturday 17 October 09 20:52 BST (UK) »
Hi y'all,

If you do not see me around for a few days it is because I have taken time out from the frantic pace of the last couple of days!  - -  Off to look up ALL the references you've mentioned!
"Let us grasp the situation,
Solve the complicated plot -
Quiet, calm deliberation
Disentangles every knot!"      (Thanks G&S)    It hasn't so far but - 'try try try again' (Robert the Bruce!)

You have thrown so much into the paddock - I'm going off to ruminate on these things.  I can't ruminate while you are all throwing stuff at me -    If you solve the case I will surely know!

Wiggy       :D
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

 Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.

Offline davclem

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 191
    • View Profile
Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #185 on: Saturday 17 October 09 22:46 BST (UK) »
1 Perceptive point Robyn, suggesting Ann Cummings (Boynton) was in a relationship with Lieutenant JohnSkelton- now I have to open a Skelton file! Not much in it yes, apart from interesting historical item about the Three Bees explosion in Sydney harbour! and his sheep were duffed per newspaper article 11/7/1818. In this context , be aware that it seems to have been Ann (per HRA) who was the business brain and manager in the Cummings household, so ,Robyn, your comment excites the curiosity, particularly as Skelton does not sem to exist in Musters, etc, and seems tohave been a transient, despite owning sheep!, but it may simply have been a business arrangement to earn the Cummings household some income

2 Am following up on the 1816 trip by John Cummings and John McNally and wife to VDL on Brothers in 1816, to see whether any more info about the passengers on board that trip, in hope that there may be reference to christain name of McNally's wife, and to follow up on other passengers who may have been firends of Cummings at PD

3 Cathy 48- thank you for hanging in with us- I will post some futher references I have found on your family(?) which may be of interest if you don't already have them, and if they ARE your family

David
Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820

Offline davclem

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 191
    • View Profile
Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #186 on: Saturday 17 October 09 22:49 BST (UK) »
Cathy 48

Historical Records of Australia  Maquarie to G A Gordon pg 714
14December 1811 Land grant and Live stock for J Cummings
“You are to direct the Acting Deputy Surveyor to locate 200 acres of land in some eligible situation  at Port Dalrymple to Mr John Cummings ( late capt in the 102nd regiment but now permitted by me, on his resignation,to become a settler on this island) in lieu of 200 acres of land some time located to him at the Derwent, but which he now relinquishes and reverts back to the Crown…..’
It goes on to detail arrangements for swopping  two cows and any increase therefrom which “he received some time ago at the Derwent” by the same from the Government herd at Port Dalrymple, plus another 2 cows and 80 ‘Ew sheep” subject to a bond for repayment in 2 years.

Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820

Offline davclem

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 191
    • View Profile
Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #187 on: Saturday 17 October 09 23:13 BST (UK) »
For Cathy 48- some Cummings grains


1   http://www.worcestershireregiment.com/wr.php?main=inc/h_29th_Foot_1807to1813

 A RECORD OF THE 29th FOOT by Colonel Charles Leslie, K. H. (1807 to 1813)

2 Historic Records Australia  19 Oct 1814-  Cummings family robbed

I can’t find the marriage of William Cummings and Ann Oates and baptism of James in Isle Of Man- can you help?

I presume that you have consulted the Historic records of Australia (HRA) and of NSW; if not then check the indexes in the early Series volumes and you will find numerous Cummings references, mostly William but several John.

David


Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820

Offline regross

  • RIP 16th November 2012
  • Deceased † Rest In Peace
  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ********
  • Posts: 1,568
  • paper doll fashionista
    • View Profile
Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #188 on: Sunday 18 October 09 01:00 BST (UK) »
Hi

Do we know what regement  Lieutenant John Skelton/Skilton was in?

Robyn
The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
&
Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany