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Calstock Marriage look up request please
« on: Sunday 11 October 09 22:43 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find the marriage of a William Martyn b 1796c to a Blanche..? born in 1796 c Redruth married in Calstock.  They had children by 1827 so I would assume married by then.  Also, if it has parents details..I doubt it, but worth a try would be wonderful.

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Re: Calstock Marriage look up request please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 11 October 09 23:14 BST (UK) »
Hi Soph,

There is a very good Calstock Site.

http://www.calstock.info/census/marriages1880s.htm

Neither the marriage nor the reading of banns appear to have taken place in this parish.

Parents names will not appear in the marriage entry. Fathers names are only included after civil registration began in July 1837. Mothers names are not listed. Sorry  :'(

Cheers Kris  :)
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Re: Calstock Marriage look up request please
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 11 October 09 23:24 BST (UK) »
Hi

Looking at the 1841/51 censuses - and also the IGI, several of their children were b Devon - Plympton.  Could they have married in Devon?  Also - why Calstock and not Redruth which was Blanche's birthplace

Their 2 eldest children Elizabeth & Richard are not shown on the IGI in either Devon or Cornwall but are shown as b Devon on the 1841 (but so are William & Blanche so it's not proof positive)
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Re: Calstock Marriage look up request please
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 11 October 09 23:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Soph,

A Big Welcome to RootsChat by the way.  ;D

Sorry no-one has been able to help with this so far. I see you requested help on the Devon Board last month and no-one has turned up anything.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,408305.msg2759641.html#msg2759641

I also note on the 1841 census we have 2 children aged 15. In 1841 ages of adults Those 15 years and older) were rounded down so anyone listed as 15 was actually aged between 15 and 19 years. With this in mind we will be looking for a marriage a lot earlier than you are suggesting. (There may be older children who do not appear with the family in 1841. William and Blanche listed as aged 45 means they were born between 1792 and 1796.

Cheers Kris  :)
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Re: Calstock Marriage look up request please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 11 October 09 23:45 BST (UK) »
Thanks guys for your help.  Yes some of their children born in Plymton and I have only managed to find one exact date of birth for one.  I am just struggling on this couple, on finding her maiden name then to go back  a generation.  Only new at doing this,so can Iask a dumb question.  As I have the exact date of birth on one child from 1827 , can you get birth certificates from this date..just thinking this may help.  I am just looking through Calstock register
Sorry if this is on the wrong board.

Thanks again everyone.

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Re: Calstock Marriage look up request please
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 11 October 09 23:47 BST (UK) »
Hi

Unfortunately birth certs were not introduced until 1.7.1837.  Entries prior to that date were in parish registers and did not always show the mothers maiden name
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Re: Calstock Marriage look up request please
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 11 October 09 23:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Soph,

These baptisms were Wesleyan and some Wesleyan records record a date of birth and a mothers maiden name unlike most records from the established church. You can puchase a copy of these nonconformist records

http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk/

alas with the extracted records from the IGI not listing the name, I do not feel it will be there. If the name was there in the extracted records you could expect to get her parents names. These records where mothers name was included are worded like this .....the son daughter of William Martyn and Blanche his wife who was the daughter of......... Pity her name is not included.  :'(

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Re: Calstock Marriage look up request please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 12 October 09 00:26 BST (UK) »
Blanch is very consistant with a birth 1795/6 in Redruth. (wondering why you think Calstock)

Looking at IGI for Redruth the only Blanch I can see born about that time in Redruth is

Blanch ANGOVE baptised 14 Aug 1796 Redruth parents Richard ANGOVE and Elizabeth. (Richard ANGOVE = Elizabeth REMFREY 10 May 1784 Redruth)

I do not see a marriage for Blanch ANGOVE in Cornwall either.  :'(

prior to that the next earliest Blanch anything baptised in Redruth, seems to be Blanch JOHNS in 1792. Looking at the 1841-1871 census along with the Calstock burial, this seems a little early.

Sorry I am not finding a likely marriage for William and Blanch listed in Cornwall.

Cheers Kris  :)
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Re: Calstock Marriage look up request please
« Reply #8 on: Friday 19 February 10 20:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I'm a volunteer at Calstock archive, and may be able to answer a couple of points above.  Firstly, (to Carole W) Calstock, being a mining area, had a transient population - so people very often married far away from their original birthplace.  Soph 87 I'm really confused as to why you think they married in Calstock, as there is no immediate evidence of a marriage here?  As Kris has directed you to the Calstock. info listings - these are fairly comprehensive for the latter period (we have a few additional from the 1600s at the archive), and the marriage doesn't appear to be there. The Martyn family in Calstock go back a long way - and there are still Martyn's in the parish now.... BUT be really careful with this surname, because the spelling of Martin and Martyn is completely interchangeable at the time you're looking for.  If you let me know why you are so certain the marriage took place in Calstock I might be able to search some more.
Parr family Crediton Devon
Goodman family India & Dorset
Haws family Essex
Hill family Wales and Essex
Lancaster family India
Harrison family Yorkshire
Penny family Essex possibly Bournemouth