James Mernagh

[heywood]

Hi Angi,
just catching up with the latest posts.

At the moment, I would not pursue James as Mayo born.  There is nothing as yet to suggest that he was but we do know that children were born there.
I agree with Shane that a child's birth certificate would be best. I know it won't offer much, but you would get some indication of his job and a location, although the girls' baptisms give Cappaduff.

heywood

[heywood]

Now, isn't this odd.

I'm just rereading the thread and I must have been thinking that James and Charlotte got married in Mayo but of course it was Dublin!
Then I quoted the Ballinrobe marriage of Frances Tantrum... surely there must be a link there.
The Mernagh children were registered in Ballinrobe (I think) and Fanny Tantrum (assuming its the same one) marries there.
I just wish I knew what the link was 

[hedwig06]

Shane,

Its states below their name :-  

"Parish Church, according to the rites and ceremonies of the united church of England and Ireland after banns by me Henry Johnson".

Under the signatures is the following:- "Certified copy of Entries of Marriages in the General Register Office Roscommon".

Children's birth's I have :-

Charlotte Frances Mernagh 5/4/1869, Co Mayo.
Catherine Elizabeth Mernagh 8/5/1870, Co Mayo.
Edward Mernagh 1872, Co Mayo.

Thanks Shane.

[heywood]

The Fanny Tantrum I had seen in English census is perhaps wrong.

Family Search pilot has a baptism for her -1850 Dublin, Eustace Street Prebysterian, extracted record so that would link her to Dublin and Charlotte.

[hedwig06]

Heywood,

I keep thinking that there's something I've missed as well, just a nagging thing really, I don't know what  

As to his job, he states Labourer on the marriage cert in Monkstown in 1868.

On the Census's in England -

1881 - Bricklayers Labourer.
1891 - General Labourer.
1901 - Coal Loader.
1908 - Died....

Why was he moving all over Ireland for a labourers job???  Just doesn't makes sense.

[hedwig06]

Heywood,

Fanny must be a friend of Charlottes, having both been born in Ireland, but that just backs up the fact I have the wrong Bowley family, even though there's a Birmingham connection through the nephew Thomas Bowley living with the family in 1891.

I have searched again for a Charlotte Bowley born in Ireland and also having a father of Charles and again nothing - very frustrating 

[shanew147]

so it was a Church of Ireland marriage...
It depends on the part of County Mayo, but less of the CofI parishes are included on the IFHF website.

I'll look for those birth references..




Shane

[shanew147]

Children's birth's I have :-

Charlotte Frances Mernagh 5/4/1869, Co Mayo.
Catherine Elizabeth Mernagh 8/5/1870, Co Mayo.
Edward Mernagh 1872, Co Mayo.

This is the extracted civil birth record for Charlotte :

 Name: Charlotte Frances Mernagh
 Baptism/Christening Place: 55, CAPPADUFF, MAYO, IRE
 Birth Date: 05 Apr 1869
 Birthplace: Cappaduff, Mayo, Ire
 Father's Name: James Mernagh
 Mother's Name: Charlotte Bowley

the familysearch record states baptism, but it's actualy a civil birth record. The reference number (55) in the place corresponds to the page number on the civil index - see :

 Name: Charlotte Frances Mernagh
 Registration District: Ballinrobe
 Event Type: Birth
 Year: 1869
 Volume : 9 / Page : 55

Unfortunately it looks like Charlotte died the same year... as there's a death for the same name and district :

 Name: Charlotte Frances Mernagh
 Registration District: Ballinrobe
 Event Type: Death
 Year: 1869
 Age : 0    (i.e. less than 1 year old)
 Volume : 9 / Page : 37



Shane

[shanew147]

similar details for Catgerine :

Extracted Civil Birth :

 Name: Catherine Elizabeth Mernagh
 Baptism/Christening Place: 60, CAPPADUFF, MAYO, IRE
 Birth Date: 08 May 1870
 Birthplace: Cappaduff, Mayo, Ire
 Father's Name: James Mernagh
 Mother's Name: Charlotte Bowley

Matching Civil Index record :

 Name: Catherine Elizabeth Mernagh
 Registration District: Ballinrobe
 Event Type: Birth
 Year: 1870
 Volume : 9 / Page : 60

I dont see a possible match for Edward at the moment...in either the extracted records or civil index..


Shane