Peter Christmas Evans

[Jacquie in Canada]

I googled Alice Lundquist's full name as you listed it and found this:
http://tucson.com/classified/obits.php?action=view_obit&ticket_id=0003172052-01802
It doesn't give any information on her family though.

Jacquie

[sunnyg1rl05]

Hi Maid marion im so glad to have met you on here if it wasnt for your original post i wouldnt have known he had emigrated lol

Thank you Jacquie that is fantastic, the obituary record i found on ancestry from the newspaper is as follows:

Alice "Betty" Elizabeth Evans Lundquist Lost her battle with cancer on September 27, 2004. She was born July 9, 1928 in Tucson, AZ. Predeceased by her parents, Edwin H. Evans and Alice Marshall Evans; her brother, Marshall...

thats where it cuts off and i couldnt find the rest, was hoping it would state a spouse name or her children,
i did find the newspaper one for her dad ( took about 3 hrs to find) and i have no idea who dotty/dolly is unless she is a daughter in law, back to the drawing board i guess lol

kaz

[Jacquie in Canada]

I took another look and realize it actually says Betty, not Dotty (I'll correct my original post).    So it should be survived by daughters Joan and Betty Abrams and grandson P. Abrams (I haven't give his name as he may still be alive). So it seems Alice "Betty" Elizabeth may have been married more than once.

In the Tucson Daily Citizen dated 17 Jul 1951 there is a notice of a complaint filed in the divorce action Betty Abrams v Melvin Eugene Abrams. There is a notice in the same paper dated 15 Aug 1951 which indicates that judgment was granted to the plaintiff (Betty).

Jacquie

[sunnyg1rl05]

Hi Jacquie,

I went to bed with dates, names etc swirling round and i had the same thought what if it was betty instead of dotty and when she died it was her second marriage, i was making it my mission to find a marriage for her and you already beat me to it with divorce details lol,

I cant thank you enough, i can look for a second marriage now for her, and see if she had any more children, i did find out Lindquist is a swedish name so thats another path to venture down lol.

thank you once again
kaz

[sunnyg1rl05]

Just to let you know ive found out some more info i was searching through the Tuscon daily citizen dated april 4th 1949

 Looks like Melvin, Alice and their son was involved in a car accident, also in the car was melvins 16yr old brother N
melvin was 23 at the time making his birth yr about 1926
P was 17months old so was possibly born in 1948?

[Jacquie in Canada]

I cant thank you enough, i can look for a second marriage now for her, and see if she had any more children, i did find out Lindquist is a swedish name so thats another path to venture down lol.

You'll have to be careful. I got Lindquist in my head a couple of times when searching and spelled it that way in one of my posts too (corrected it when I realized my error) but as you posted earlier it is Lundquist.  

I think I see a possible reason for the divorce. In the 3 Aug 1950 edition of the Daily Citizen there is a notice under Justice Court that says Melvin Abrams was convicted of "failure to provide for minor children" and received a 60 day suspended sentence.

[sunnyg1rl05]

Ooh Jacquie, my mistake, its such an unusual name and i still get it wrong lol,

doesnt look like Alice had much luck with her first hubby, Wonder what it means failing to provide for minors? would that be their children or children by another woman? ive not heard of anyone  being convicted for that before.

having been trying to find marriage announcements for both weddings but not come up with anything yet.

I did find a social security death index for a Melvin E Abrams born 13 sept 1926,
                                                                                                death : 4 dec 1998 Huntington beach, orange,
                                                                                                                                california

 could be Alices ex husband, doesnt give much detail, going to attempt to find his obituary in the  newspaper
                                                                                               
 

[iolanthe]

Hello folks

I was doing a search for a Peter Christmas Evans today, and your messages came up on Rootschat.  Could you please fill me in on the link with him, as I have been following various Evans links, very carefully, who fit in with my research.

The Peter Christmas Evans I am looking at was born in 1854, in Bersham, near Wrexham, North Wales, with his birth registered in Wrexham, and was a  brother of Samuel Evans (born 1847/1848).  They were among 5 children of Peter Evans and his wife Rebecca (nee Williams), and Samuel married Caroline Davey Humphreys in 1874 in Caernarvon, living in Llanbeblig most of their life, also in North Wales.

My original quest was to find out more about this branch of the Evans family, as Caroline and Samuel had 12 children by the time of the UK 1911 census, 7 of whom died in childhood before this date, and others died in early adulthood  -  very sad.  I come from South Wales, and in the family archives is an obituary card for one of the daughters (Mary Caroline Evans) who died, and was buried aged 17 in Risca, Monmouthshire, South Wales in 1893.  Another daughter died aged 5 a few months later in 1894 in the same area.

What has puzzled me is:  why did "my" Evans family in rural Monmouthshire  where people didn't travel far afield, have this obituary card for a girl well away from her home area (at least 150 miles and a very difficult and indirect journey at the time), as I can't find any family connection at all with the 2 Evans groups?

If anyone can shed any light on this query, I should be very grateful as it is really annoying me, not to be able to find a direct link, even going back 2 more generations!!

Many thanks.......

[RJ137]

The California Death Index (available for free on www.rootsweb.com) has a Peter Christmas Evans born 25 Dec. 1854 and died 23 Feb. 1947 in Los Angeles.

Peter's DC:  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01iyw/