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Re: Joseph Burnside, Cockerton
« Reply #144 on: Sunday 28 February 10 12:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi All
I have put a look up request on the North Riding board for the baptism of Violet. Hopefully someone may have some info.

Gary
Preshous: Yorkshire/Durham
Penwrights: Bedfordshire/Tasmania
Blake: Sunderland
Stace: Sussex/Sunderland
Murray: Cumberland
Sanderson: Berwickshire/Durham
Burnside: Darlington

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Re: Joseph Burnside, Cockerton
« Reply #145 on: Sunday 28 February 10 13:02 GMT (UK) »
Hello again,
The family names of the 1779 AB seem to fit the Oz AB. The main stumbling block is the age on the DC.

However, we have a newspaper report from 1830 of the Coroner examining the body of Sarah Burnside and finding the cause of death as "habitual intemperance".

We're 99% sure this is AB's widow - its definitely not their daughter, so this may help to explain the apparent inaccuracy in AB's DC.

Janet

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Re: Joseph Burnside, Cockerton
« Reply #146 on: Sunday 28 February 10 13:33 GMT (UK) »
Gary
        I had already given up "my" AB1779 to being the one who went to Oz, for the same reasons that you have given.Ermy seems happy with1778, son of Edward, which leaves 1762 as being Oz, and we have done quite well in a couple of days. If we can sort him out then Janet will be happy as well.
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Re: Joseph Burnside, Cockerton
« Reply #147 on: Sunday 28 February 10 14:31 GMT (UK) »
private AB was invalided from the 73rd in 1814

Does his discharge certificate give an age for this point??
Ermy
Baldwin / Dixey / Rumble (Berkshire)
Burnsides / Corps / Harker / HINDLE / Longstaff / Martin / Page (Co. Durham)
Chalker / Glyde / Morris / Pitman / Stroud (Dorset)
BARTON / Heasman / Wheatley (East Sussex)
Baby / Silver / Silvester (Hampshire)
BARTON / Cheeseman / Head / JONES / Kidder / Wood (Kent)
Chalker (Somerset)
Chatburn / HINDLE (West Yorkshire)
Curtis / Davis / Stevens (Wiltshire)
Arcules / Carter / HINTON (Worcestershire)

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Re: Joseph Burnside, Cockerton
« Reply #148 on: Sunday 28 February 10 15:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi All
Just a bit of info on the Violet 1806. It would seem she married William Farnaby in 1831 at Hutton Rudby. I found her with her family, and an Ambrose aged 80, who is noted as not born in county, in the 1841 census,  HO107; Piece 1258; Book: 9; Civil Parish: Hutton; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 2; Folio: 17; Page: 26. Her age is noted as 35 so an 1806  birth. If the Ambrose is her father then he would have abt 45 when she was born.

Gary
Preshous: Yorkshire/Durham
Penwrights: Bedfordshire/Tasmania
Blake: Sunderland
Stace: Sussex/Sunderland
Murray: Cumberland
Sanderson: Berwickshire/Durham
Burnside: Darlington

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Re: Joseph Burnside, Cockerton
« Reply #149 on: Sunday 28 February 10 17:18 GMT (UK) »
Nice find, Gary.  I think this adds weight to the 1762 AB being the chap that married Elizabeth Harrison which  could/would/should mean that the Oz AB is Benjamin's son in spite of the age at death being out??
Ermy
Baldwin / Dixey / Rumble (Berkshire)
Burnsides / Corps / Harker / HINDLE / Longstaff / Martin / Page (Co. Durham)
Chalker / Glyde / Morris / Pitman / Stroud (Dorset)
BARTON / Heasman / Wheatley (East Sussex)
Baby / Silver / Silvester (Hampshire)
BARTON / Cheeseman / Head / JONES / Kidder / Wood (Kent)
Chalker (Somerset)
Chatburn / HINDLE (West Yorkshire)
Curtis / Davis / Stevens (Wiltshire)
Arcules / Carter / HINTON (Worcestershire)

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Re: Joseph Burnside, Cockerton
« Reply #150 on: Sunday 28 February 10 18:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ermy
It definitely points to at least one AB b 1762  being alive in the UK after the death of the AB in OZ.
Just to add it looks like Violet died in 1849.

Gary
Preshous: Yorkshire/Durham
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Blake: Sunderland
Stace: Sussex/Sunderland
Murray: Cumberland
Sanderson: Berwickshire/Durham
Burnside: Darlington

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Re: Joseph Burnside, Cockerton
« Reply #151 on: Monday 30 August 10 11:58 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone. 

I have been researching the Burnsides with a friend from UK.  He just notified me of  this thread about the various Ambrose Burnsides.  They can be very confusing to sort out.

I think the problem with finding out which Ambrose ended up in oz is because his age at death is incorrect, possibly mistranscribed  somewhere along the line.  I have the following in my Tree:


Ambrose Burnsides born 1762 Darlington s/o Ambrose and Isabell Porteaus.  He married firstly Violet Patterson who I think was born 1764 Auckland St. Andrew.  They had children Edward 1790, Ambrose 1791 and William 1796 all Yarm.    Then Violet must have died because Ambrose then has children Edward 1803 Darlington (LDS pilot project) and Violet 1806 Yarm, with Elizabeth Hull.

In 1841 Ambrose is living Hutton Rudby next door to his daughter Violet Farnaby and her family. Ambrose died in 1843 and Violet died in 1849 Stokesley.

Edward born in 1803 married Elizabeth Swales d/o Frances Swales and Christiana Stephenson.

Ambrose Burnside born 1778 Darlington s/o Edward Burnside and Elizabeth Bousfield married Elizabeth Watson.

Ambrose Burnside born 1779 Darlington died 1827 Campbelltown NSW Australia.  He was the son of Benjamin Burnsides 1749 Auckland St. Andrew and Ann Burnside 1755 Darlington.  Ann was the sister of Ambrose 1762 and my great x 5 grandmother Elizabeth Burnsides who married Alexander Stephenson.

Hope this is helpfull.
Val


Rodgers; Smith; Banks; Lawson; Mead; Horseley; Firth: Whitby, Lythe,Loftus, North Yorkshire.
Harker,Swales, Stephenson: Stokesley, Stockton,  South Bank, Middlesbrough Yorkshire.
Tapp, Nosworthy: Devon & Middlesex, London

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Re: Joseph Burnside, Cockerton
« Reply #152 on: Monday 30 August 10 23:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Val,
          Strange! I have just been watching Jason Donavon on "Who do you think you are" and Liut. Colonel Lachlan Macquarie is mentioned ( Ambroses Commanding officer). then i came on the comp. and found your posting.
  I have just changed my Ambroses around recently and now they read the same as yours. After going over your post i am confident that all your details tie up with mine, so after about 8 yrs I will lay it to rest, (but would love to know where Am married Sarah)
                                  Good luck and thanks Fred