Joseph Burnside, Cockerton

[Colin Cruddace]

Hi Gary,

They are geographical opposites in terms of the town! Faverdale to the North West and Brankin Moor to the South.

Colin

[Preshous]

Hi Colin

I suppose I should have said not to far for a Burnside .
Interestingly the Brankin Moor Burnside's seem to be related to the Brafferton branch, still working on that one.

Gary

[verezzi]

Another inconclusive snippet to add: The Vina from Dalton le Dale could well be my Lavina Burnside, as I stated earlier one of the Lavinias married George Cowley in Darlington (I say one of! It's certainly annoying the recurrence of names and the census is no help as the 1851 and 1861 give a difference in age of 5 years, it does always say Cockerton not Blackhall however, though whether that's any help is debatable) anyway, George Cowley was from the village of Hawthorn a stone's throw from Dalton Le Dale which may be a link here. She is also named Vina on one of the census documents and the name reoccurs down the Cowley line always as Vina/Vinah/Vinia never Lavinia.

Hey ho, Merry Christmas everyone

Dan

[Preshous]

Hi Dan

I feel I could be saying Hi Ho Merry Xmas this time next year and still not being any further in my quest.


Gary

[Burnside]

Hello all. I am posting here, not with solutions to any questions but to raise some more questions about  my Ambrose Burnside.

In April 1798 he enlisted in the Durham militia.

In July 1799 he transferred to the 82nd, The regimental book shows him as, trade potter, County Durham,  Parish “Blaknam”?, aged 17 so born around 1782.

He left England in 1809 with the 73rd, presumably with wife Sarah? and daughter Elizabeth

His Death cert in 1827  in Australia shows him as 66 and so born in 1761. I would have thought the enlistment age more reliable – but we don't know. It seems the questions about the Burnsides never end.

Some of my AB’s children certainly match the pattern of names. His children were Sarah, Ann, Benjamin, Elizabeth, John  as well as Mary and Charlotte.
 
Any thoughts/ speculation etc would be welcome.

Janet

P.s. I have had exchanged Emails some time ago with Colin and Fred

[Preshous]

Hi Janet

Welcome to RootsChat. The age difference is confusing. I have an Ambrose b 1779 to Benjamin, potter of Blackwell.
I have not found an Ambrose born even close to 1761, that is not to say there isn't one.
And I have not found a marriage for an Ambrose & Sarah?. Do you have a birth for Elizabeth?


Gary

[Colin Cruddace]

Hi Janet,
There was an Ambrose baptised at St Cuthbert's Darlington on 27th June 1762, son of Ambrose of Blackwell, Potter.
Possible siblings - Ann 1755, Catherine1757, Elizabeth 1760, Margaret 1765, Isabella 1768 and Catharine 1770.
Unfortunately I have nothing further on any of these.

If the regimental book has his birthplace wrong it's possible that they have his age wrong, or a very unclear 37.

Hope this helps,
Colin

[Preshous]

Hi Colin

There is a burial via the NBI for a Ambrose in St Edmund the Bishop Sedgefield in 1843 aged 80 that would give a birth date c 1763?? Could this be the Ambrose b in Blackwell 1761.

Gary

[Ermintrude46]

Hi Janet, and welcome to the Burnside tangle!

I have that Ambrose (bap 1762) and siblings down as children of Ambrose Burnsides and Isabella Portous.  I THINK I am descended from that Ambrose (bap 1762) 's brother Edward but nothing is certain!  Edward is a very common Burnsides name but Benjamin less so, so interesting that your Ambrose has a Benjamin amongst his children (but not an Edward) which may give a clue to his line.  Ambrose is a family name that seems to be passed down by the descendants of Ambrose and Isabella Burnsides from the Darlington/Shincliffe areas as well as via descendants of Benjamin and Ann Burnsides from Auckland/roundabouts.  Just to make things (even) more complicated Benjamin's wife, Ann, was also a Burnside, the sister of that Ambrose (bap 1762) !  
Ermy