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« Reply #18 on: Thursday 06 December 12 11:59 GMT (UK) »
I'm also looking for further information about mines or other heavy industry around Pontypool.  I have a marriage at Llanfihangel Pontymoile in 1838.  The groom's occupation is "Iron roller" and OTP; the bride's father's occupation is "Furnace keeper".  The father's place of residence is not given but the bride is a minor and also OTP so I am making the assumption that she was living at home.

Where would these men have worked? 

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« Reply #19 on: Friday 07 December 12 18:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Judith, the only place that they could have worked at that time that was open for that type of work was Blaenavon Ironworks. It is now an open museum. Look up the name to see the site. Hope that helps. Lenny.

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« Reply #20 on: Friday 07 December 12 18:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Judith, sorry to bother you but the church where they married could have been The Llanfihangel Church, Pontymoile. (See site). Lenny.

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« Reply #21 on: Saturday 08 December 12 06:08 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Lenny for your help on this thread and on my other thread.  I don't want to highjack this thread with my family but I am still interested in the workplace for these men and would this possibly the place of work for the man in the OP's original question.

I have had a look at the Blaenavon Ironworks site which has given me some further insight.  However it seems to be some 7 miles from Pontymoile so I'm wondering how they would have travellled to work in 1838. 

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« Reply #22 on: Saturday 08 December 12 06:49 GMT (UK) »
Cwm, Ebbw Vale and Pontypool are all in England. Not now but in those days they were.

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« Reply #23 on: Saturday 08 December 12 07:22 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: barryd on Saturday 08 December 12 06:49 GMT (UK)
Cwm, Ebbw Vale and Pontypool are all in England. Not now but in those days they were.

Aneurin "Nye" Bevan, English Socialist, normally portrayed as a Welsh Socialist, born in Tredegar, England. 

That's a common myth, not borne out by historical fact!

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« Reply #24 on: Saturday 08 December 12 07:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Judith, I have  looked for other works for that time and there is nothing for many miles. As for travelling 7 miles to work...it was not uncommon in those days especially if they had a horse and cart. I walked from Pontymoile to Blaenavon when I was a boy and it's not that bad. My father used to walk 5 miles to the coal mine and that was in the 1960's. Lenny.
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