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Offline GHAnderson

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Where is Cwm?
« on: Monday 07 March 05 15:28 GMT (UK) »
In the marriage register for 1850 for Panteg/Panteague (near Pontypool), there is a record for the marriage banns of Phillip GILBERT, miner, of Cwm, son of John GILBERT, miner,  and Elizabeth DAVIES, otp, daughter of Thomas DAVIES, founder.

It seems Cwm is an abbreviation, but which is the most likely town?

Thanks for any help - I'm half a world away from Wales, and am clueless on the local geography.

Offline denben

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Re: Where is Cwm?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 March 05 16:24 GMT (UK) »
It's most likely not an abbreviation.  Cwm is a small village just South of Ebbw Vale.  It's about ten miles from Pontypool.

The mine in Cwm was named the Marine Colliery.
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Re: Where is Cwm?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 March 05 18:22 GMT (UK) »
Hello

Per the 1841 census of Panteg ,a considerable part of the parish was denoted as Cwm.

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Re: Where is Cwm?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08 March 05 15:18 GMT (UK) »
Cwm means valley, and although I agree that the Cwm in question is probably the village that lies a few miles from Ebbw Vale it must be noted that there are many areas of Wales that have villages and hamlets called Cwm - also used as an abbreviation for other areas, Cwmbach, for instance.
Surnames: Stafford, Essex, Bird, North: Coventry, Warwickshire.
Hyatt: Coventry, Leicester.
Surnames: Bunstone, Jeanes: South Petherton, Somerset.
Surnames: Moynihan, O'Leary, Murphy, MacGillycuddy: Kerry, Ireland
Surnames: Brace, Powell: Monmouthshire, Glamorganshire and Pembrokeshire.

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Re: Where is Cwm?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 March 05 15:31 GMT (UK) »
Also you may want to try this:

http:www.worldwidewales.tv/index2.php . It used to be a  free  site but now I think you have to subscribe. I don't think there is anything specifically about Cwm but Ebbw Vale and areas are covered along with other areas in Wales.
Surnames: Stafford, Essex, Bird, North: Coventry, Warwickshire.
Hyatt: Coventry, Leicester.
Surnames: Bunstone, Jeanes: South Petherton, Somerset.
Surnames: Moynihan, O'Leary, Murphy, MacGillycuddy: Kerry, Ireland
Surnames: Brace, Powell: Monmouthshire, Glamorganshire and Pembrokeshire.

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Re: Where is Cwm?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 March 05 15:43 GMT (UK) »
I checked it out and although you do have to subscribe eventually there is a free sample and Ebbw Vale is included in that with a snippet on Cwm.  Just thought you'd like to know, I hope you'll find it useful.   
Surnames: Stafford, Essex, Bird, North: Coventry, Warwickshire.
Hyatt: Coventry, Leicester.
Surnames: Bunstone, Jeanes: South Petherton, Somerset.
Surnames: Moynihan, O'Leary, Murphy, MacGillycuddy: Kerry, Ireland
Surnames: Brace, Powell: Monmouthshire, Glamorganshire and Pembrokeshire.

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Re: Where is Cwm?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 March 05 15:57 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for your help!  I checked out the very informative video, and also learned that I was way off in how to pronounce "Cwm". 

I'm still unsure which Cwm my Phillip GILBERT is from - the marriage in 1850, registered in Panteg, says Cwm (which is a transcription, I don't know what the original record looks like, so can't tell if it is an abbreviation or not).  However, in the 1861 census, he gives his birth place as Panteg, so possibly while born in Panteg, he was working at the colliery in Cwm in 1850.

Thanks again!

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Re: Where is Cwm?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 March 05 00:26 GMT (UK) »
Maybe, but Cwm - the Marine Colliery that is, would be quite a way from Panteg, especially as the colliers went on foot to work. He'd have been worn out, better think that Cwm is a part of Panteg when conducting your research!! :)  He'd have been completely shattered by the time he got to work!
Surnames: Stafford, Essex, Bird, North: Coventry, Warwickshire.
Hyatt: Coventry, Leicester.
Surnames: Bunstone, Jeanes: South Petherton, Somerset.
Surnames: Moynihan, O'Leary, Murphy, MacGillycuddy: Kerry, Ireland
Surnames: Brace, Powell: Monmouthshire, Glamorganshire and Pembrokeshire.

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Re: Where is Cwm?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 15 March 05 15:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi all
I originally come from down that way. Used on its own it probably is Cwm, Ebbw Vale but there are other possibilities eg Cwmtillery
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Barry
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