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william ward abt 1805
« on: Wednesday 07 October 09 10:58 BST (UK) »
can anyone tell me the parentage of william ward born abt 1805 castle sowerby carlisle

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Re: william ward abt 1805
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 October 09 16:39 BST (UK) »
There is a William Ward of Castle Sowerby in 1807 to a "Mrs Esther Ward" on IGI but it's a submitted entry and I can't think how to get to a marriage with only the womans married name.
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Yorkshire: Altass
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Re: william ward abt 1805
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 October 09 17:28 BST (UK) »
Hi

The way I understood the submitted entry was that William married Esther and there is a list of their children too.

I had a look at the christenings for Castle Sowerby which range from 1738 - 1875, there are only two Williams noted, one in 1768 and the other 1819 which are way out for your William.

I wonder if he was christened elsewhere?

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Booth, Hornsby, Northumberland & Durham
Jackson, Northumberland & Durham
Douthwaite, N Yorks & Durham
Geldard, N Yorks
Ward, Cheshire & W Yorks
Swallow, Boid, W Yorks
Kirby, Lowe, Studholme, Geary, Emery, Baldock

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Re: william ward abt 1805
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 October 09 17:47 BST (UK) »
Hi

This may be a possible but not a definite.

William Ward 19 Aug 1806 christened at Raughton Head, Cumberland to parents William Ward and Peggy Monkhouse.

William Ward and Margaret Monkhouse were married at Castle Sowerby 6 July 1794

Raughton Head is about 4 miles from Castle Sowerby.

If this is your William and the one that married Esther he also had two of his children christened at Raughton Head.

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Booth, Hornsby, Northumberland & Durham
Jackson, Northumberland & Durham
Douthwaite, N Yorks & Durham
Geldard, N Yorks
Ward, Cheshire & W Yorks
Swallow, Boid, W Yorks
Kirby, Lowe, Studholme, Geary, Emery, Baldock

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Re: william ward abt 1805
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 08 October 09 18:02 BST (UK) »
Evie, my apologies - it does say spouse. But still gives the info as a birth - but as I said it was a submitted entry. Back to the drawing board.
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Re: william ward abt 1805
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 October 09 18:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Bob :)

I agree it was very confusing, I had to look at it twice.

Booth, Hornsby, Northumberland & Durham
Jackson, Northumberland & Durham
Douthwaite, N Yorks & Durham
Geldard, N Yorks
Ward, Cheshire & W Yorks
Swallow, Boid, W Yorks
Kirby, Lowe, Studholme, Geary, Emery, Baldock

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Re: william ward abt 1805
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 October 09 21:09 BST (UK) »
Hi, found the births of 4 children to William Ward and Margaret(Monkhouse).
He was 25 years old and a farmer and Margaret was 24 years old when married, 6th July1794 at Castle Sowerby.
Robert Ward 1801
Margaret Ward 1804
William Ward 1806
Elizabeth Ward 1812
They were all baptised at Raughton Head.
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Cumberland; Graham, Ogilvie, McCauley, Darling, Underwood,Atkinson, Losh, Heylin,Tinning.

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Re: william ward abt 1805
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 10:37 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for this information I travelled to Carlisle to look at the Parish Records and could not find anything other than the marriage of William to Esther are there any other records available? 

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Re: william ward abt 1805
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 18:50 BST (UK) »
Hi

I came to this one a bit late, but I'm a bit confused too!

If the list that Lorimer found was in the actual records, than the baotisms must be there.  The only thing I can think of is that these old records tend to jump around as new books and rules were introduced so that all of the reel will not be in chronological order.

On the early part, there will be baptisms, burials and births, possibly a group of each per year, or even mixed up so needing a lot of reading, then among other changes a new marriage book comes in, so marriages are separate and eventually there are books with forms for all three events so they are separate. 

This often means the reels jump around a bit and especially around 1800 you may get a small piece of register well away from the rest or even on another reel.

OIf these were still the submitted ones, then the area may be right but the church is passed down by word of notes or family notes and we can look else where.  This area's still quite sparsely populated and most people won't live by the church.

My next choice would be Sebergham.  Some chapels weren't open at this date or didn't do marriages.  -Failing that, some older parishes would be Caldbeck, Dalston, Skelton or Greystoke, and of course some people even went to the towns - Penrith or Carlisle.

I would try Sebergham next though.

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