Hassall Green Fields

[tofgem]

Is there anyone who is local to the Hassall Green area who can help me please?
My ancestor George Pierpoint and his family lived in Hassall Green in 1861. The census describes his residence as 'Hassall Green Fields'. I believe that there is no such location today and was wondering whether anyone has done any research and can help me to locate this area in 1861. I had thought that it could have been the farm shown on the old maps as 'The Fields', but according to the census there are rather a lot of people living in Hassall Green Fields and the possibility is receding into the distance.
Any suggestions gratefully accepted.
Tofgem

[danuslave]

Hi Tofgem

Can you give us the census reference please

Linda

[tofgem]

Hi Linda
I only downloaded the image from A....... and as I no longer have access, I do not have the reference. However, I have since found a transcription of the census of the area (see p9/10):

http://www.odd-rode.org.uk/census/1861%20Betchton.pdf

This may help.

The description of the district covered by the enumerator may help someone who knows the area, but again, I no longer have access.
I have looked at the Cheshire tithe maps site and studied the 1875 OS map, but I am none the wiser.

Tofgem

[danuslave]

Hi Tofgem

This is what it says in the district description (Betchton District 7), but I'm not sure it will tell you any more than the link you posted. Still, nothing ventured...

The following is the order in which this District and the places in it have been visited

1st  Township of Hassall - Roughwood, ??ess Bank, Sodley Smithy, Day Green, Dunnocks? Field, Bostock House, Hassall Hall, Hassall, Hassall Moss and Malkins Bank

2nd  Township of Betchton - Malkins Bank, Fields Malkins Bank, Fields Hassall Green, Hassall Green Cross, Hassall Green, Roughwood and the Sonet?

If you go to google maps and search for Bostock House, Hassall Hall, Hassall Moss and Roughwood, these still exist, as does Malkins Bank.

I think this is the best I can do.  Hope you manage to find a 'local'

Linda

[tofgem]

Hi Linda
Thanks for looking.
When I'm feeling quiet and calm I'll sit down with the maps (I have old and present day maps) and try to work it out. As you say most of the place names still exist so I should certainly be able to work out the route taken. I don't think that I am going to get any more information unless someone has already researched the area.
Again, many thanks for your time and effort.
Tofgem
(Why do I always want to know the impossible?)

[Pepsi62]

'The Fields' Hassall Green is on the road from Hassall Green to Malkins Bank almost opposite Cross Farm - the 1861 census confirms this as it is shown as the next property to Cross Farm.

I have it on the 1910 map and it also shown on a modern OS map although not named - so I assume it is still there - it is now right next to the M6.

It looks like a large property probably previously a farmhouse and on the 1861 census is shown as split up into 4 parts which is not unusual.

Peter

[tofgem]

Hi Peter
You have just confirmed my original choice of location. I think that this will have to be my final decision. It is shown on the present day larger scale OS maps as Fields Farm.
Thank you very much for your trouble.
Tofgem

[rastajill]

hi peter
regarding the above the location you have settled on is correct I have been there myself.........however during the period you are looking at there was a large gypsy site some where around there and given as you say the many different people situated there I think there,s a fairly good chance that it is this you are looking at

[tofgem]

Hi Rastajill
Thanks for that. I'm interested in the gypsy camp. Do you have any more information? I like to set the scene for the homes of my ancestors.
Tofgem