Help in looking for harry turner

[katiesymonds]

I am still looking into the possibilities that have been posted on here. Might take me a bit of time.. but I just wanted to say thanks to all of you for your help/interest.
Ambly... Can I just ask where you found this information for me to have a look myself... thanks
Cosmac... the online ancestry tree is in fact me. Thanks anyway.
Harry Battye Fisher turner is my husbands gggrandather and he seems to have just disappeared. Its interesting to think he may have been illegitimate but a whole new look on it. Thanks.... Ill keep looking but I would be really grateful for any information that any of you may unearth. Its definately a Symonds family mystery.

[AMBLY]

Registered as Harry FISHER -Wetherby - Mar Qtr 1886
His parents George TURNER and Alice Maude FISHER's marriage is registered in the Jun Qtr 1886.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk

I could not see any TURNER birth registration to match in Wetherby district (which is what Boston Spa would come under).

Then I saw his parents marriage (I could see them on Census, so knew their names) in 1886 Jun Qtr. The same year as Harry was supposed to have been born - which led to the possibility he was born before they married and therefore registered as FISHER. Which is when I find the Harry FISHER registration quoted above.

Cheers 
AMBLY

[katiesymonds]

Thanks Ambly I will have a look at this tomorrow. I hadnt thought of the possibility he might have been ilegitimate and it does make more sense now. I think there is a strong possibility he may have taken his birth name when he left the family home and that is why I havent been able to find him. Once again thanks very much for your help. I was starting to feel i was flogging a dead horse on this one.I will keep you posted on my findings.

[AMBLY]

It's certainley a challenge you have ! How important it may be to discover where the Battye middle name came from.

He could have begun a new life as BATTYE or FISHER in the UK or Canada or US or Antipodes

I wonder - have you considered if it might be an idea to trace his birth family - his siblings and their descendants ie: try and find the closest living descendant you can to see if there is any story of what happened to "Uncle Harry?

Cheers
AMBLY

[katiesymonds]

Thanks Ambly. I have tried the living relatives....my husbands old Aunties... and the story has always been the same. He walked out one night and was never seen again.No one has any info on him at all. I cant find a marriage or a death.. and at least his death has to be registered somewhere. I am off to try searching for him as Fisher. I might be lucky... but I am going to keep trying and hopefully solve the family mystery. His wife Helen(nellie) never remarried either.

[J.J.]

Not helping with your recent search, sorry, but the IGI has an individual file for the marriage of George & Alice Maude Fisher April 4 1886 giving full name of George's father as Henry Eccles Turner batch file #I025094 which look to be legit as all have names of father's from marriages! ( matches marriage to Harriet Atkinson, 1860 Pocklington batch #M108915 )   
Alice Maude FISHER christening in 1868 is EXTRACTED and has father William George Fisher & mother listed as Sarah Scruton...noted you didn't have some surnames, but do not see the marriage?

added: found it! marriages march Q 1865  as Sarah Scruton Carey in York dist vol 9d p.47

or on IGI as Sarah Scraton Carey, married March 29th, 1865  Saint Laurence, York, Yorkshire

Birth march Q 1843 
Sarah Scruton Carey / York/ vol.23   p,662


her parents were probably John Carey who married Sarah Scraton   
May 28  1842 Saint Laurence, York, Yorkshire, England

[katiesymonds]

Hi JJ.... thank you very much for that amazing information. I will sit down tomorrow and put it all together. I have sent off for the birth certificate for Harry. It looks like he was indeed ilegitimate and at birth he was registered as Harry Fisher. His Mother married very soon after his birth. It will be interesting to see if George Turner is noted as his father. This has opened up lots of possibilities and I am much more confident in finding him now. Thank you very much for your help and I will keep you all posted as to how my search is going. i am glad that I found this site.... the help and advice I have been given is fantastic.

[J.J.]

Ambly wants to see the Battye connection, which starts to show in 1881 with uncle to Alice Maud , Joseph Battye
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/y/m/Gordon-Symonds/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0049.html

katie...we'd have more luck finding all your connections past then looking into the whereabouts of the dad. These fellows have a way of not wanting to be found...although we've had the odd bit of luck finding one or two...out of probably hundreds... Just sayings odds aren't big if he's dropped some names