Gannon family

[brendi]

hi all
not sure if this correct place to post
im trying to find information on my family
im trying to find history on my great grandfather

edward james gannon ..from liverpool( possibly wavertree )
born around 1890
not sure when died
he married a catherine ? born 1892 died october 1968 ( unsure if maiden name was chiddlow or siddle)

they had 2 sons Edward and john
Edward married gwendoline skelhorn
john married Mary ? ( not sure if Hollingworth or dunstable )

[Manchester Rambler]

Hallo, and welcome to Rootschat!

This looks like you g-grandparents' marriage on Free BMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com

Marriages Sep 1914
GANNON  Edward   
SIDDELL   Catherine    
W. Derby 8b 1013

There are a number of possible births for children of the couple, including Edward J (1915) and John (1923) - you can find them by going to the Free BMD site and selecting "Births" - then enter Gannon as "Surname" and Siddell as "Spouse/mother surname"

Edward and Catherine's marriage cert will give you their ages and their fathers' names/occupations: you can order it online from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ (It costs £7.)

Rambler

[Luzzu]

Hi,

Welcome to Rootschat.

 

To start you off, this is the marriage:-

Name: Edward Gannon
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's Surname: Siddell
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 1013

You can do a free search for the births and marriages of their sons by going to www.freebmd.org.uk

I can't post the details on here because they may still be living but I think the maiden name you are unsure of is Hollingworth.

Once you have all the references, you can order certificates online at www.gro.gov.uk and they cost £7.00 each.

Do you know the names of Edward James parents.  There is an Edward Gannon born about 1887 in Liverpool on both 1891 and 1901 census and the parents are recorded as James and Lucy.  If you think this sounds right I will post the details.

Luzzu

[Manchester Rambler]

There are a couple of possibilities for Edward's birth, but this looks like the only one for Catherine:

Births Jun 1892   
SIDDELL   Catherine       
Liverpool 8b 112

This is her family on the 1901 census:

RG13/3417 18 28 - 23 Peach St, Liverpool
William SIDDEL - Head - 53 - Tailor - Manchester
Mary SIDDEL - Wife - 46 - Tailoress - Ireland
Mary SIDDEL - Dau - 16 - Domestic - Liverpool
William SIDDEL - Son - 14 - Message Boy - Liverpool
Martha SIDDEL - Dau - 11 - Liverpool
Cathrine SIDDEL - Dau - 8 - Liverpool
Margaret SIDDEL - Dau - 7 - Liverpool
Joseph SIDDEL - Son - 4 - Liverpool
Daniel ROURKE - Boarder - 24 - Tailor - Liverpool

[AMBLY]

Hi Brendi

Welcome from me , also

On LancsBMD ((an excellent source):  the marriage is further confirmed 
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
Marriage of Edward GANNON and Catherine SIDDELL - 1914, West Derby Registrar Office

Where did you get the "CHIDDLOW" name possibility from?

The closest Birth for him I can see is this one on FreeBMD:
Birth: Edward GANNON - Sep Qtr 1889, Oldham

This person appears to be in the 1891 &1901 Census in Oldham.

No middle name James  on this birth or the marriage to Catherine in 1914.
Where did the middle name come from in your records?

Cheers
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

Hi

The Edward GANNON who married Catherine SIDDELL in 1914, has a WW1 Army Pension record:

Attested for Service:  4 Jul 1917: Edward GANNON age 24 & 8 mths, married.
Address: 3 Cross St, Liverpool,
Occupation: Baker
Corps: A.S.C Batl. (Baker), Reg. Nr: 358962
4' 11" tall
Next Of Kin: Catherine GANNON (wife) of 3 Cross Street, Liverpool
Particulars of Marriage:
Catherine SIDDELL (spinster) married 26 Sep 1914, West Derby
Children: (boy EJ as per FreeBMD) born 25 March 1915

His Birth date was  given at one point in the record as:  as 4 Sep 1892.

He was discharged (quite honourably)  as Medically unfit to continue in Miitary Service.

Noting on FreeBMD he and Catherine had a 2nd child's birth registered Mar Qtr 1917 before he attested in Jul 1917, yet only the child born 1915 is accounted for on the form at both  attestation and discharge time.  A further check of the BMD's shows the 2nd son appears to have died shortly after he was born.

The stated dob  (1892) and age in 1917, is a couple of years out on the date you have for your Edward, though.

Cheers
AMBLY

[brendi]

There are a couple of possibilities for Edward's birth, but this looks like the only one for Catherine:

Births Jun 1892   
SIDDELL   Catherine       
Liverpool 8b 112

This is her family on the 1901 census:

RG13/3417 18 28 - 23 Peach St, Liverpool
William SIDDEL - Head - 53 - Tailor - Manchester
Mary SIDDEL - Wife - 46 - Tailoress - Ireland
Mary SIDDEL - Dau - 16 - Domestic - Liverpool
William SIDDEL - Son - 14 - Message Boy - Liverpool
Martha SIDDEL - Dau - 11 - Liverpool
Cathrine SIDDEL - Dau - 8 - Liverpool
Margaret SIDDEL - Dau - 7 - Liverpool
Joseph SIDDEL - Son - 4 - Liverpool
Daniel ROURKE - Boarder - 24 - Tailor - Liverpool

thanks this is the right one for catherine

To start you off, this is the marriage:-

Name: Edward Gannon
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's Surname: Siddell
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 1013

You can do a free search for the births and marriages of their sons by going to www.freebmd.org.uk

I can't post the details on here because they may still be living but I think the maiden name you are unsure of is Hollingworth.



Do you know the names of Edward James parents.  There is an Edward Gannon born about 1887 in Liverpool on both 1891 and 1901 census and the parents are recorded as James and Lucy.  If you think this sounds right I will post the details.

Luzzu

 thanks luzzu it is a good possibilty that is is james and lucy

Hi

The Edward GANNON who married Catherine SIDDELL in 1914, has a WW1 Army Pension record:

Attested for Service:  4 Jul 1917: Edward GANNON age 24 & 8 mths, married.
Address: 3 Cross St, Liverpool,
Occupation: Baker
Corps: A.S.C Batl. (Baker), Reg. Nr: 358962
4' 11" tall
Next Of Kin: Catherine GANNON (wife) of 3 Cross Street, Liverpool
Particulars of Marriage:
Catherine SIDDELL (spinster) married 26 Sep 1914, West Derby
Children: (boy EJ as per FreeBMD) born 25 March 1915

His Birth date was  given at one point in the record as:  as 4 Sep 1892.

He was discharged (quite honourably)  as Medically unfit to continue in Miitary Service.

Noting on FreeBMD he and Catherine had a 2nd child's birth registered Mar Qtr 1917 before he attested in Jul 1917, yet only the child born 1915 is accounted for on the form at both  attestation and discharge time.  A further check of the BMD's shows the 2nd son appears to have died shortly after he was born.

The stated dob  (1892) and age in 1917, is a couple of years out on the date you have for your Edward, though.

Cheers
AMBLY

thanks ambly
the address are correct onthis also the dates you have given for grandfathers  dob is correct  also there was mention of catherine having a child that died in between edward and john but unure whether was a girl or boy and when he died

[brendi]

Hi Brendi

Welcome from me , also

On LancsBMD ((an excellent source):  the marriage is further confirmed 
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
Marriage of Edward GANNON and Catherine SIDDELL - 1914, West Derby Registrar Office

Where did you get the "CHIDDLOW" name possibility from?

The closest Birth for him I can see is this one on FreeBMD:
Birth: Edward GANNON - Sep Qtr 1889, Oldham

This person appears to be in the 1891 &1901 Census in Oldham.

No middle name James  on this birth or the marriage to Catherine in 1914.
Where did the middle name come from in your records?

Cheers
AMBLY

hi we had heard the name chiddlow and siddle in the past and no one was sure which was the one for catherine but now now it is definately siddle
the oldham one is not the gannon i am looking for
thanks

[Manchester Rambler]

I can see an Edward GANNON aged 20 living in West Derby in the 1911 census index - it might be worth investing in some credits to see the full details, and check whether he's a baker, for example.  He is the only Edward approximately the right age in Lancashire apart from the one in Oldham.

http://fmpbsol.1911census.co.uk/