Kilner in Denby and a 1841 census look up please

[Holmemoss]

Thank you, Rambler.

I have found this site

http://www.c5d.co.uk/chaplainsbirths.htm

with

Hannah Kilner Cephalonia  11 82

Harriet Kilner Corfu 11 84

Mary Anne Kilner Corfu 11 81

Peter Kilner Corfu 11 154

Ruth Kilner Corfu 11 206

William Kilner Cephalonia 11 84

Unfortunately the chap wants £10.60 for each certificate.

If Harriet is back in England in 1841 then I presume it is reasonable to assume the rest of the family were also.

[Manchester Rambler]

I would presume they're all in England - Harriet seems too young to have come back on her own?  I'm wondering whether Mary remarried, and the others are listed under her husband's surname, although I've tried searching just on first names and looking for one the right age born in "Foreign Parts".  1841 is annoying, of course, with not giving full birthplaces.

[Holmemoss]

Thank you for all you have done so far, Rambler. I hadn't thought of that to be honest. I have just checked on the FreeBMD and there is a marriage of a Mary Kilner in the Halifax registration district in the September quarter of 1839:

Marriages Sep 1839   (>99%)
ANDERSON John Wilson   Halifax    22   126
BARRITT Hannah      Halifax    22   126
BRADLEY Sarah            Halifax    22   126
CRAWSHAW Nathan      Halifax    22   126
KILNER Mary         Halifax    22   126
MAUDE Hannah Mitchell   Halifax    22   126
Tiffin    John            Halifax    22   126
WINTERBOTTOM    John      Halifax    22   126

[Holmemoss]

I am trying to track down a Mary Kilner who came back to WRY following the death of her soldier husband, Benjamin Kilner. With help from Rambler it seems she didn't go to Denby as I previously thought but to the Halifax area.

I found a possible marriage for Mary in 1839, prior to the 1841 census, so if someone has the time may I please ask if they can check to see if a Mary Anderson (husband John Wilson), Mary Crawshaw (husband Nathan), Mary Tiffin (husband John) or a Mary Winterbottom (husband John) is in the Halifax area in 1841.

Unfortunately, I do not know Mary's age but Benjamin was born in 1797 so I suppose she would be aged around 40. There may be several children of her in the household; Hannah (aged 17/18), William (aged 15/16), Ruth (aged 8/9) Mary Anne (age unknown) and Peter (age unknown).

Thank you.

[yorkshiregirl]

I've just found this forum and have been very interested to read the comments.  I'm descended from Abraham Kilner through Benjamin his son and Benjamin's  daughter Ruth.  I have a copy of Ruth's baptismal certificate and also a copy of her marriage certificate to George Clay.  If anyone wants the details I'm happy to provide them.

[Holmemoss]

I have a lot of information on the Kilner family.

I am not sure how many posts one has to make before being able to send Personal Messages - is it 3? If you can do this then I can send you what I have and we can compare notes.

For Ruth Kilner and her husband George Clay, I do not have certificates but a lot of census information on them and their 11 children:

Benjamin, born 1850/1
Ann Amelia, born 1852/3
John William, born 1855/6
Harriet, born 1858/9
Clara, born 1859/60
George Arthur, born 1862/3
Fred, born 1864/5
Laura, born 1866/7
Walter, born 1868/9 - I believe he died in 1880
Herbert, born 1869/70
Wilfred, born 1873/4

I also have a grandson, Cecil Alexander Clay born 1896/7, of unknown parentage as he was living with his grandmother Ruth - an illegitimate child of one of the daughters?

I have not been able to confirm if Mary Kilner (nee Singleton) remarried.

[yorkshiregirl]

The following is what I've found by looking at someone elses tree on a different site.  My apologies if you already have this information.

Harriet Kilner 1827 - 1901  married Richard Scholes !832 - ?.
Harriet died in Victoria, Australia.  They had a daughter Hannah born 1864 in Carisbrooke, Newmarket, Victoria.

Hannah Kilner 1923 - ? married Luke Noble 1818 - ? of Elland

William Kilner 1829 - 1892 married twice

1.  Lena Fortescue 1836 - 1862.  Children Mary 1857 born Hobart, Tasmania. Harriet 1860 Sydney.  Frances 1862 Queensland.

2.  Emma Dutton (nee Bailey)  1829 - 1884.  Children William 1869 Queensland.  Louisa 1871 Brisbane. 

Is this any help?

[Holmemoss]

Hello

I have been working on Abraham Kilner and Hannah Taylor or many years; also in collaboration with two ladies in Australia, who are descendants of Harriet Kilner's (b 1827) daughter Hannah Maria Scholes, and a lady descended from John Taylor Holroyd. This lady has a family bible which was invaluable.

I have no objection to sharing this information and would be interested in learning how you fit into the family.

PM me when you have made sufficient postings to be able to do so.

[yorkshiregirl]

There is a Mary Winterbottom listed in 1841 but in  but Delph Hill, Rastrick. (This is transcribed as being in Halifax) No husband but 4 children with surname Winterbottom. n Ruth age 10 scholar, Peter age 5 scholar, Hannah age 19 servant and Harriet age 14 servant.  The right Christian names but not accurate on ages.   Mary would be 43 and Peter 16 by my reckoning.