Belcher ancestry

[Kirst]

My mother was a Belcher and to show how it all fits together I'll list the ancestry;

Jonathon Belcher (bapt ?) - Ann Dew
                ↓
William Belcher (bapt 1686) - Mary either Woodley or George
             ↓
  William Belcher (bapt 1714) - Elizabeth King
              ↓
    James Belcher (bapt 1757) - Rachel Matthews
               ↓
     William Belcher (bapt 1786) - Mary Ann Giles
                 ↓
       John Belcher (bapt 1829) - Jemima Elderfield
                 ↓
        Frederick Belcher (bapt 1851) - Emma Froude
                       ↓
         Charles Belcher (bapt 1889) - Sarh May Saunders
                      ↓
           my mother Norah

It is the first of the William Belchers  i'm trying to unravel and I've listed it this way as there too many William Belchers and hope it can be more readily understood.



Alan

Would you happen to know if there are two Ann Dews who married a Belcher around the same time, one marrying William Belcher and the other Jonathan Belcher?

Thankyou

[ribbo39]

Hi Kirst,

Jonathon Belcher - m - Ann Dew 3-8-1676 in North Hinksey, Berks - Jonathon was from West Hanney & Ann was from East Hanney. (taken from the CD of marriages from the Oxon FHS)

This is the only marriage I have found - there may be others.

I don't know about other Ann "Dews"  but have noticed different spellings; (Doo, Doe) in the past.

If you should find other "Belcher" marriages to a Dew, please let me knmow.

Alan

[Kirst]

Thank you Alan,

I have been searching more and I think the Ann/e who William married may have been Anne Rice, married in London in 1682. Parents of Benjamin Belcher baptism 7 Jul 1698 Wantage, Berkshire, England. Most of the trees that I've come across on Ancsty have Benjamin's parents as William Belcher and Ann Dew having married in either 1678 North Hinksey or 1683 East Hanney but I don't seem to be able to find anything to confirm this hence my earlier query.

The search continues. Many thanks for your message.

Kind regards, Kirst

[Kirst]

Hi again Alan,

Have you been able to determine who the parents of Jonathon Belcher (who married Ann Dew 3-8-1676) are? In my tree there are hints showing to the names as Francis Belcher & Ann Stampe but I have found the hints to be more of a possibility.

Thank you, Kirst

[ribbo39]

Hi Kirst,

I think Jonathon Belcher (recorded as Beltcher) was bapt. 24-5-1644 Wantage (s/o William & Jane Endall).
Looking thru the records for Wantage Sts.Peter & Paul, I found 7 other baptisms from 1635/6 to 1652
and a marriage for William & Jane 12-4-1635 Wantage.

No other baptism for William was found but Jane appears as bapt... 1-4-1613  (d/o John & Elizabeth)

Hope these details help.

PS. I have seen the Francis Belcher - Ann Stampe records and  Francis is the d/o William (Philiipa Brooke) there may be a connection further back but I haven't progressed this line.

Alan

[Kirst]

Hi Alan,

Thank you very much, appreciate the names of Jonahton's parents.

Regards your "PS. I have seen the Francis Belcher - Ann Stampe records and  Francis is the d/o William (Philiipa Brooke) there may be a connection further back but I haven't progressed this line." - sorry, I'm a little confused where you mention 'Francis is the d/o', I am unsure who the female Francis is?

Also do you have Tame in your tree? I do and thought maybe I'd seen some previous posts relating to the Tames.

Kind regards, Kirst

[Trees]

William and Elizabeth King

Why don't you think  William was;
William bapt 28 Jan 1730 son of Henry Belcher ?

Its been ages since I looked at the Belcher tree and many personal events have hindered my thought processes along the way!
But I am still not convinced that Elizabeth King's William was not the son of Henry.
I had a burial for what I thought was this William
William   BELCHER   6 Jan 1813   St James   West Hanney   83   Lyford
this giving a birth in 1730 which matches Henry's son    do you have another burial which is conclusively Elizabeth King's husband showing his age?

[ribbo39]

Hi Kirst,

My apologies - I confused myself, that's trying to write a message early in the morning - still asleep.

Francis  is the s/o Richard Belcher & Elisabeth Butler who married 15-1-1613 in Childrey, Berks. They had  2 children in Childrey before moving back to Denchworth where Francis was bapt. in 1627.

I meant to convey that Francis (above) married Ann Stamp in Wantage 1652.

The Richard Belcher above is the s/o William & Philipp[sic] weho married in Denchworth 1584.

Yes I have many "Tame"s recorded

Alan

[ribbo39]

Hello Trees,

Long time no speak - it's  also been ages since I last looked at the Belcher ancestry;

Using the latest CD release from the Oxon FHS (OXF-WAN01 - 4th edition) there  are these baptisms in Hanney;
28-1-1729 William Belcher s/o Henry
8-12-1734      "            "        "   Richard
5-3-1737        "            "        "   William

Burials;
6-1-1813  William Belcher, of Lyford (aged 83) "an Alms-man"
This entry obviously ties in with the entry as the s/o Henry. The other "William Belcher" burials were much later in 1865,1867 & 1868.

I can't give any earlier burials as the "Burial Register 1783 to 1812 has been lost"

Does these help?

Alan