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Re: Scott/Adoption/1919..need help!
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 03 October 09 10:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks for posting those Daisyloo.  I'm certainly curious about the letters, but not sure how much they would help in finding Mrs SCOTT.

Maybe transcribe any relevant clues?

I can't help thinking the initial T looks like a P - is there any other capital T to compare with?

I agree that the writing is fluent - quite artistic in fact.  It really is a mystery.  And I suppose we only have her word for it that she was using her real name!

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Edit: looking again - the name SCOTT is almost printed!  I'm suspicious about that!

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Scott/Adoption/1919..need help!
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 03 October 09 10:32 BST (UK) »
Just seeing if this works...this is the first letter, I think...


Edit: It does work...will re-check if it's okay with Kathy to post these....
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Re: Scott/Adoption/1919..need help!
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 03 October 09 11:38 BST (UK) »
Hi

The area the letter was written in would be very close to the St George Hanover Square registration district if not in it. There is only one birth registration in 1916 in the London area for a Mona J

Births Dec 1916     
Purdy  Mona J  Moy  St.Geo.H.Sq.  1a 619

It is possible it is a late registration (or one where the birth was adjusted). Have you eliminated this child?
There doesn't seem to be a Purd(e)Y/Moy marriage, or any other children with this parentage and no marriage or early death registration for a Mona Purd(e)y

There is this later marriage in the same registration district.

Marriages Sep 1918  Moy  Mona  Ripley  St.Geo.H.Sq.  1a 1223

I can't find Mona Moy on censuses or in the civil registration. There are children from this marriage including one called Mona.

If it has not been done already, I think it is important that the one possible London area candidate is eliminated if that is possible, and/or the birth is examined further particularly since it so close to the letter address.


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Valda
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Re: Scott/Adoption/1919..need help!
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 03 October 09 11:57 BST (UK) »
Hi All

Kathy, following Daisyloo's suggestion on the history of the address. The whole area was/is leased by the Portman Estate offices, www.portmanestate.co.uk/contact/index.html  They would be the best starting place to try and find out what 13 New Quebec Street was used for at that time. Voters roll would be the next search but given the end of the war, not a great year to search for. Likely mother was renting a room there for a period of time and may have moved after the adoption you would think but worth checking out anyway.

Can I ask, from her signature on the letter, is A.T Scott signed off as Mrs or Miss?

Monica  :)
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Re: Scott/Adoption/1919..need help!
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 03 October 09 12:24 BST (UK) »
Hi

The 1918 Representation of the People Act only gave limited voting rights to women and then only to some but not all over the age of 30. Women who were not married and did not own property (as in renting) were excluded.


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Valda
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Re: Scott/Adoption/1919..need help!
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 03 October 09 12:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks Valda  :) That may limit that type of search.

Monica
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Re: Scott/Adoption/1919..need help!
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 03 October 09 22:18 BST (UK) »
I have sent off an inquiry to the e-mail address of the Portman Estate,

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Re: Scott/Adoption/1919..need help!
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 03 October 09 22:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Kathy

Daisyloo has been working hard on this one  :) The Dowling birth was one I did see and wondered about.

I think from what you have said, Mona is now deceased. Maybe including her photo may help. Can I ask you, did the mother ever refer to her child by name in her letters. I've been wondering whether the name Mona was a birth name or that given to her by her adoptive family. Although, given your searches, I have assumed it is understood by the family that this was her birth name.

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Re: Scott/Adoption/1919..need help!
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 03 October 09 22:43 BST (UK) »
Hi, Monica,
The adoptive mother wrote to the registers office in 1932 asking for a birth certificate of Mona Julia Scott, born 2 April 1916 at Highgate.  I am sure that's what she thought the child's name was.  The answer, of course, was that they could find no birth registration by that name and suggested at that time that they legally adopt which I guess they hadn't before.  Then a new birth certificate was supplied in the adoptive name.