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Re: Scott/Adoption/1919..need help!
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 01 October 09 22:12 BST (UK) »
I've been through much the same process - the only thing I can add is that the middle initial "T" seems to be unusual for a girl's name!

Flight of fancy maybe, but the one that came to mind was Theresa, which made me think of an Irish girl ...

Possible scenarios include an affair - maybe with fiance or husband away fighting in WWI and returning to find he was a "father"?

I looked for any SCOTT births or marriages, the latter to a woman with names beginning with A&T - nothing too promising.

Too many results on Historical Directories to wade through.

I'm inclined to move this to the London board, so the experts can help!

Kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Scott/Adoption/1919..need help!
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 01 October 09 22:45 BST (UK) »
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Re: Scott/Adoption/1919..need help!
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 01 October 09 22:46 BST (UK) »
I've done it for you!  :)

Do the letters give any indication of whether the mother is married?

The 1911 census has only one female SCOTT of around the right age (guessing) with a first name "A" and a middle name "T" (or vice versa)

Fourteen year old Amelia Tresia SCOTT  who is living in St Pancras

This girl is the daughter of a gas fitter in St Pancras in 1901. Not sure that she fits the profile of a businesswoman - depending on whether she was a woman of means or not!
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Scott/Adoption/1919..need help!
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 01 October 09 22:52 BST (UK) »
The child would surely have been registered somewhere.  I tend to lean that her name really was Mona (Julia) as at 3, she would have been sure of her own name as well.  So...

I think Highgate was under EDMONTON registration district (incidently...it seems to be quite an affluent area)

There are only 2 Mona's registered in Edmonton, in 1916

Mona K Murphy AMJ  mothers maiden name: Jones
Mona E Seelly JAS mothers maiden name: Berryman

Interestingly, there is a Mona registered in 1917, JAS, in Uxbridge (not really near!) as Mona E Marshall, mothers maiden name Marshall.  A red herring I'm sure...

The thing is, the address in Marble Arch, I think could be misleading.  The mother could have just come up to London (from anywhere really) and was lodging there until she had found a home for her child.
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Re: Scott/Adoption/1919..need help!
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 01 October 09 22:58 BST (UK) »
There's a marriage for Amelia T Scott in 1918, in Willesden, Middlesex to Eggleton?
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Re: Scott/Adoption/1919..need help!
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 01 October 09 23:02 BST (UK) »
No births for EGGLETON (or similar) mmn SCOTT after 1918.

There's a Thirza SCOTT around, who is older and therefore perhaps more likely - don't know what became of her.

I'm becoming tired however - will catch up tomorrow - good luck!

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Scott/Adoption/1919..need help!
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 01 October 09 23:09 BST (UK) »
Again - unlikely if this is the same woman:

Marriage

March 1918

SCOTT Thirza M J to FILLMORE

Pancras 1b 228



Thirza Mary J born Pancras March 1899

Seems she wouldn't have another initial "A"!!

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Scott/Adoption/1919..need help!
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 01 October 09 23:23 BST (UK) »
lol...

if it's just a signature...could it be A J ?  Just to confuse things a little more!  ;D

Seen copies of the letters....would say definately A T Scott...

Kathy, you might want to transcribe some of those letters onto here...it may help. 


I have a 3 year old daughter, and it doesn't bear thinking about how hard this whole story would have been :(
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Re: Scott/Adoption/1919..need help!
« Reply #17 on: Friday 02 October 09 22:54 BST (UK) »
I'm left scratching my head on this one...have read most of the letters...which leave you with a thousand more questions...the handwriting is very need and articulate...the 'mother' never refers to the child by name...only as the little one, and once or twice as my little girl.

I have added her signature, and also how she writes Dear Mrs Wright, to compare what she calls herself.  There are very few registered births for a Mona in London, you could go through all the certs, but will this really help?

The way the 'mother' writes in the letter, gives me a feeling that she knows London well...she refers to Kings Cross as Kings x, tells the adoptive mother to stay on the platform, and that she has a room arranged for her...not really language of a country girl...

Arranroots, do you think it worthwhile putting some of the letters up here? 

I don't know what else to suggest, or where to look next!
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BARNETT- Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire, Dorset HILSDEN/HILLSDEN/HILLSDON- Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Canada PRESTIDGE/PRESTAGE- Warwickshire, Northamptonshire, Islington PINNIGER/PINEGAR/PINNEGAR - Wiltshire       Brambleby - Kent, Middlesex     
LEACH- Norfolk   BUTTERWORTH - Lancashire   OTTON - Somerset  LAWRENCE - Berkshire