HALE Burials - Sherborne

[piddington]

 I just found your posting on the Hale family of Sherborne Gloucestershire and Kingham Oxfordshire. I have just started getting into my research on the Hale family. I ordered the parish records for Kingham. I am confused on William Hale. Most people have William Hales christening as 22 Sep 1682  Father John Mother Elizabeth in Kingham, but he starts a family with Sarah in 1683. There is a William Hale christening in 1663 that seems a better fit.  How do we know that William Hale baptised 1682 is the right William. Am I missing something. I am also following the Cross family in Sherborne. Would really love some help on this.

                                   Carolyn

[Victor Harvey]

Hi Pat W & good evening to Liz in France,
2 burials NOT mentioned so far @ St Mary Magdalene, Sherborne, Glos:-
05/08/1841, Esther HALE, aged 84
10/12/1842, James HALE, aged 50
Do come back if you would like a lookup for Sherborne @ Glos Archives.
Victor

[maxdog]

Hi

I have not seen the Kingham records, all info I have from them has been gathered via rootschat (thanks to all). Initially, I found the Kingham Hales via IGI, however, the dates given on that do not match up so all the family info is not correct. I can't recall just now why not but I am sure it will be obvious if you have a look.

It is some time since I did this tree. I believe that  Anthony Hale, latterly of Sherborne, b 1722, was the son of Anthony born c1688 and Hannah Boswell (married at Bledington in 1716).  There is a settlement certificate in Oxford Records for Anthony and Hannah to settle in Churchill in 1716 (again, I am assuming this is 'our' Anthony as there are other family records there also) but they did not stay as I believe the baptism records show. There was a Hale relative there, Anne, who had married a Smith.

William b. 1682 is from a different branch of Hale family to Anthony's and is the son of John and Elizabeth.  William b1663 is, I think, 'our' Anthony's brother. Their father is a William c1640 m Joanna and also Sarah. Possibly a first family followed by a second with second wife as there is a 20 year gap between fam 1 and fam 2.   Anthony born 1702 is not Anthony of Sherborne.

I have moved house recently and I don't have my notes to hand. I recall that a Hannah Hale married a John Huckin in Kingham and some of my Hale info has been drawn from Huckin info on the net, it may be of use to you. A note I have from a researcher tells me that in Kingham 'there was a large and significant fanily named Hale descended from William Hale who died in 1551'. Possibly there is a will?

I hope this has been helpful rather than confusing. I will hunt down my notes this week and try for something more coherent for you later in the week. Please do ask any questions you have I will try to answer them.
Regards, Pat W

[piddington]

 Thanksyou for your reply. That Hale family is so confusing LOL. I have a copy of the transcript for Kingham and alot of parishes nearby. I'm going to extract all the births deaths and marriages and see where that leads. I would really welcome any help you can give me in my research lines and I can help with some of the parish records from Kingham and surrounding areas. My Elizabeth Hale born Farmington ,daughter of Anthony Hale & Anne Humphries, she married George Cross 25 Dec 1784 in Sherborne. So far I haven't found anything on George. Hannah Boswell or Dowdeswell is another issue although there was alot of Dowdeswell's born in Kingham no Hannah. I have seen the Boswell last name as well attached to Hannah.

[maxdog]

Definitely give you a headache. I have seen the original entry for the Bledington marriage, unfortunately, the records are in such a state its not possible to photocopy. Again I understand from another source that the name was Boswell although it looks like Dokewell and not remotely like Boswell to me, although, as I read that I realise I have forgotten about the long S in use at the time; it could be Bosewell then.

George Cross, I gather, did not come from Sherborne, I think, if you have not done so, it might prove useful to search Glos Archives/Dutton for his mortgage documents or contracts? maybe Oxford records also? All I know about Sarah is that she was the singing miller of Northleach and had a large family, most of whom were still unmarried well into her eighties.

Good luck, i hope to hear from you soon and I will locate my Hale file.
 

[maxdog]

Victor, mother and son, my thanks to you.  Think I am ok for sherborne just now but thanks for the offer, Regards and happy new year to one and all, Pat W

[maxdog]

One more thing, someone asked me some time ago if I could locate Sherborne Mill, home of the Cross family. I cannot do so but they were resident for the 1841 and 1851 censuses, possibly longer. It should be possible to approximate a location from these records. Elizabeth's obituary describes the family as  resident in Sherborne Mill, near this town (Northleach, Glos).PW

[Liz in France]

Hi Pat W and Victor,

Sorry about the confusion with the burials of James & Esther Hale which I gave you  over 2 years ago.  On checking my notes it seems I gave the place of abode as the burial place which was of course, Sherborne as Victor points out.

The same applies to Alice and Anne  and John Hale as well.

My apologies for making this slip.

Regards,
Elizabeth

[maxdog]

Not a problem Liz, blame the Hales who, it appears, were born to spread confusion. Thank you for taking the time to look things up, I'd be no further forward at all without the help of rootschat.

Best wishes, Pat W