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John BROWN - immigration
« on: Thursday 01 October 09 05:13 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Trying to find arrival of g.g.g. grandfather John Brown.  His arrival is noted as 1821 to Aust.  There is family talk that he may have been a Cabin Boy.  It is believed but not verified that he arrived on the Henriettta or Elizabeth Henrietta.  John Brown was a sheep grazier - 100,000 acres around 1848 his property was Cannonbar - Dubbo/Wellington/Nyngen area NSW.  We do know he came from Suffolk.  No proof to date on the ship he arrived on.  His father may have been a Clerk for the Dutch East Indies Company.  It would appear his parents did not come with him.

Any help in find his ship would be gratefully appreciated

Kind regards  Debbie
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Re: John BROWN - immigration
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 01 October 09 05:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Adcor,

One of my forebears was a John BROWN, arriving 1827 to NSW... I'll get to my hardcopy files and go through to find the many chaps named John BROWN who arrived in the 1820's...  One must be yours...

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Re: John BROWN - immigration
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 01 October 09 05:43 BST (UK) »
Bit More,

I think there was a ship "Elizabeth Henrietta" in the 1820's... 

Also I have asked the moderators to move this thread off the completed lookups and onto the main Australia board, so others will notice it  and perhaps be better able to help...

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JM
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Re: John BROWN - immigration
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 October 09 05:52 BST (UK) »
Thankyou so much JM - John Brown arrived either 1821 or 1829.

Regards Debbie
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Re: John BROWN - immigration
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 October 09 06:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Debbie,

Thanks Kris for your quick response and moving this posting to this thread, you are always there to help, Gold Stars to Kris.

Debbie, I'm sure you realise the many difficulties in trying to sort out which John Brown was which....  But, I think your chap was not in NSW in 1828, as I cannot find him on the 1828 Census...  Although even that record has some reliability issues, mainly because of its age and the various chaps who used the alias "John Brown" etc...

So, what records do you already have for him?  For example, do you have any information as to land grants - I usually expect to find the name of the ship somewhere on those documents.... 

Are you only seeking the details of his arrival to NSW, or are you hoping for help on his NSW life ... 

I've got lots of questions, and stacks of assorted "rejected" bits and pieces on the many (and I do mean many) John Brown chaps (also BrownE) that were around in the 1830's. 

Cheers,  JM
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Re: John BROWN - immigration
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 October 09 06:25 BST (UK) »
Bit More,

On the NSW electoral roll for 1870/1, for the polling place of Canonbar, in the district of THE BOGAN, (right area  ;D) there's the following:

John Brown, freehold, residing at Canonbar, situated at Duck Creek
AND
John Brown, junior, residence, same as above.

I will have a look to see who was there in 1878 ish.

Please let me know if you already have this information.
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JM
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Re: John BROWN - immigration
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 October 09 06:28 BST (UK) »
Bit More,

1878 Electoral Roll, again, for THE BOGAN, noticing that the polling place is now Cannonbar (was just one "n" in 1870)

Again, two by name of John Brown, one as freehold, other as residence, both at Cannonbar, Duck Creek.

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Re: John BROWN - immigration
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 01 October 09 06:31 BST (UK) »
Bit More,

Cannot find either of those chaps at Nygan on 1903 roll, but I will check other polling places in that electorate (Darling) shortly.

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JM
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Re: John BROWN - immigration
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 01 October 09 06:47 BST (UK) »
Bit More,

I have found a polling place in the 1903 roll for DARLING, spelling "Canonbar" and there's some BROWN listings there.  (1903 is first year for females aged 21 and over to be eligible to enrol to vote)

All with surname BROWN and alpha by first names (so tis up to you to figure out which families each belong to, remembering the females could be there under Brown as their married surname)
Anna Isabella, at Reedy corner, domestic duties
Charles Robert, at Half Moon Station, manager
John Thomas, at Reedy corner, grazier
Sydney Brisbane at Half Moon Station, overseer
Thomas Brisbane at Canonba (spelling definitelyas per roll) grazier

Also of course there's others on the same page, and their addresses include localities that strike bells for me eg
Girilambone,  Belarbone, Merryanbone,

The entire roll fits on one page, just 51 persons enrolled at that polling place.
Any names you want me to check ?  - In laws etc.

Cheers,  JM
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