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Free State Army operations in Munster during the Civil War
« on: Tuesday 29 September 09 23:51 BST (UK) »
Hi All

I'm currently doing a bit of research on my Grandfather, Patrick Lawson who was part of the Squad, IRA Dublin Active Service Unit and Dublin Guard.

I have a some material on him (photographs, witness statement and medals) and know he was demobbed in the mid-20s, though he served again during The Emergency (1939-46).

As a Pro-Treaty man and a former member of Michael Collins' Squad he served as an officer in the Free State Army, albeit at a junior rank.

During the Civil War, Pro-Treaty forces deployed into Munster from the sea and I believe my Grandfather was part of a Dublin unit under the command of Paddy Daly, a senior Free State officer and former leader of The Squad.

Does anyone know the unit designations, commanders and areas of operations of the Pro-Treaty forces that served in Munster during the Civil War?

I am very aware that Pro-Treaty forces operating in Munster during the Civil War could have participated in some nasty tactics against the local population and Anti-Treaty forces.

Any suggestions, guidance or pointers welcomed.

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Re: Free State Army operations in Munster during the Civil War
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 October 09 22:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Striker,
               Very interesting, I must point out tho that attrocities were carried out on both sides during the civil war.
I am very interested in the fact that your grandfather was a member of the squad. I am trying to locate where these men are all buried including your grandfather and a possible photo of him for a project Im doing. I would be very thankful for any help you can provide. My email is:
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Re: Free State Army operations in Munster during the Civil War
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 October 09 02:53 BST (UK) »
Collins22

I have a photo of my grandfather as a Freestate officer in the early 20s. He was demobbed I think in 1925 or so, though he was a volunteer during the Emergency.

He died in 1973 and is buried in Glasnevin cemetery, Dublin.

I'll try and get that photo to you over the weekend.

For your info. There is a book entitled The Squad written by a T Dwyer (I think). Google the book. I had a quick glance at it in a bookshop recently and the author even used my grandfather witness statement as a reference.

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Re: Free State Army operations in Munster during the Civil War
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 10 October 09 00:44 BST (UK) »
Hi again,
              Thank you very much for that date, once I have the year I can find the grave, look forward to the photo too.
Many many thanks.

                   James Langton


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Re: Free State Army operations in Munster during the Civil War
« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 October 09 18:44 BST (UK) »
On this subject have a look at youtube & type in  " Ballyseedy massacre " there is a great documentary there its about an hour & a half long, its a real eye opener to the Civil War.Theres a lot about ex Squad members in it & what they got up to during the Civil War.
Deering Dublin,Hickey Dublin,Wilson Dublin,Murphy Dublin/Carlow.

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Re: Free State Army operations in Munster during the Civil War
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 October 09 22:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks

I have seen the documentary and alas it doesn't throw any light on the subject.

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Re: Free State Army operations in Munster during the Civil War
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 21:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Striker,
               Did your Patrick Lawson live at 447 Mourne Road Driminagh in Dublin at the time of his passing 14-June-1973?

                Kind Regards

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Re: Free State Army operations in Munster during the Civil War
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 19:46 BST (UK) »
Collins 22

Correct and Right. It is the same Patrick Lawson. Did you know him and his family or did you come across his address from research!

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Re: Free State Army operations in Munster during the Civil War
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 23:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Striker,
               Didnt know them, but I found the grave and photographed it and that address is on it. Is there some way I can mail it to you if you wish to have it? Or here with your permission?

                  James Langton