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Major Smith marriage
« on: Tuesday 29 September 09 22:37 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help me locate the marriage of Prudence Major and Arthur Fredrick Smith
B:4 Jan 1918 Liverpool, Lancashire, England 

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Re: Major Smith marriage
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 23:16 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Prudence Major and Arthur F. Smith married December Quarter, 1941 Manchester.  Reference:   Volume 8d page 251

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Mo
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Re: Major Smith marriage
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 23:17 BST (UK) »
Yes I had just found it a few minutes ago, but cannot for the life of me find her parents...

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Re: Major Smith marriage
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 23:37 BST (UK) »
Possible the John A Major that married Mary Bostock registered Nantwich Cheshire in 1914, but you would have to get Prudence and Alfreds marriage certificate for her age and fathers name and occupation for a start, then her birth certificate. 

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Re: Major Smith marriage
« Reply #4 on: Friday 02 October 09 12:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks I'll order that at somepoint in the future.

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Re: Major Smith marriage
« Reply #5 on: Friday 22 January 10 21:23 GMT (UK) »
Received the marriage certificate this morning of John Arthur Major and Mary Bostock 19th January 1914 St Mathew Haslington, reg Nantwich.

John Arthur Major 23 a Batchelor Fireman, 11 Henry Street, Haslington father Arthur Major Labourer.
Mary Bostock 19 a Spinster 11 Henry Street, Haslington father Alfred Bostock Dock Labourer.

Witnesses: Wilfred Charles Cartwright
Freda Wells Joseph Henry Major

Using this as a guide I have searched the 1901 census as I currently have no record of John Arthur or his parents on any of the census.

On the 1901 census I have found this information:
School Lane, Haslington

Thos Bateman           Head   Widower   M   52   1849   Labourer (County Co),  Hassall Moss, Cheshire
John Arthur Major   Grand Son      M   10   1891   Haslington, Cheshire,
Joseph Henry Major   Grand Son      M   10   1891   Haslington, Cheshire

RG13  - 3354 - 105 - 15

I think this could be the right John Arthur as the Haslington fits the marriage certificate of John Arthur and Mary Bostock  :D
and more importantly Joseph Henry Major's name appears as a witness on the marriage certificate (although it does appear as Freda Wells Joseph Henry Major).

I have found him or whom I believe in 1911
Pool Farm. Haslington

Herbert Samuel Bloor   Head   Married 34 years    M   57   1854   Farmer Dairy   Cheshire Haslington
Sarah Bloor                   Wife   Married 34 years    F   54   1857      Cheshire Haslington
Louisa Bloor                   Daughter   Single    F   31   1880   Farmers Daughter Dairy Work   Cheshire Wistaston
Samuel Bloor                 Son   Single    M   29   1882   Farmers Son Working On Farm   Cheshire Haslington
John Major                   Servant   Single    M   18   1893   Waggoner On Farm   Cheshire Haslington
Albert Parkes                  Servant   Single    M   16   1895   Cowman On Farm   Cheshire Wheelock
Annie Morris                    Servant   Single    F   16   1895   General Servant Domestic   Cheshire Coppenhall

RG14 - 21762   - RG14PN21762 RG78PN1297 RD449 SD1 ED10 SN1

Can anyone help me find them in 1891 and your comments on the above please!



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Re: Major Smith marriage
« Reply #6 on: Friday 22 January 10 21:53 GMT (UK) »
Hmmm...this is unusual? What does everyone think?

I have searched tonight for Arthur's father on the 1891 census and found him with his wife and children (twins I can't believe it again as they show up so often in the family its amazing)

School Lane, Haslington
RG number: RG12      Piece: 2854      Folio:  11      Page:  17

Arthur Major        Head   Married    M   21   1870   Labourer In R Works Haslington, Cheshire
Sarah E Major                    Wife       F   23   1868   Wheelock,Cheshire
John A Major                      Son       M   0 (6M)   1891   Haslington, Cheshire
Joseph H Major                   Son       M   0 (6M)   1891   Haslington, Cheshire

However I have also found in 1891
RG number: RG12      Piece: 2854      Folio:  11      Page:  17
School Lane, Haslington

Thomas Bateman   Head   Married            M   42   1849   Chemical Labourer Hassall, Cheshire
Elizabeth Bateman   Wife   Married            F   48   1843   Warburton, Cheshire
Rhoda Major           Daughter   Single    F   17   1874   Domestic Servant Haslington, Cheshire
William   Major        Stepson   Single    M   23   1868   Labourer In Railway Works Haslington, Cheshire
Frederic Bateman   Son                       M   14   1877   Farm Servant Haslington, Cheshire

Can anyone explain the relationship between the Major's and Batemans? My head hurts?

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Re: Major Smith marriage
« Reply #7 on: Friday 22 January 10 22:33 GMT (UK) »
Therec was a marriage between an Elizabeth Major  and a thomas Bateman in 1889 at Haslington

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Re: Major Smith marriage
« Reply #8 on: Friday 22 January 10 22:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi David,

In case of headaches take two of Bursys tablets ;D

I haven`t worked it all out yet but I suspect that Thomas Batemans wife in the 1891 census was actually Arthur Major (born c.1869 ish)  mother. She has knocked a couple of years off her age though  ::)  

Thomas Bateman married Elizabeth Major at St. Matthew Haslington in 1889.  (added just seen Dotty has found the same)

If you look back for Arthur you will see that his mother Elizabeth was born Warburton as was Thomas Batemans wife in 1891.  The Major family have been transcribed as Magor on the 1871 census.  Arthur aged 2  ::)  His father was Joseph.

Now for the tricky bit.  I believe that Thomas Batemans first wife was Ann Major who he married in 1869 at St, Matthew, Haslington.  I think she was Joseph Majors sister.

Regards,
Mo



Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Lancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton
Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)