census look up please for 1851/ 1861 and 1871 completd ty

[CatOne]

In 1881, Eliza is still noted as married, age 69, born Headcorn, a visitor in the Armener household, 6 Stoney Street, Southwark St Saviour RG11/520 Folio 61 Page 6

No sign of John though, I wonder if he deserted her and set up elsewhere 

[CatOne]

Thomas and Elizabeth in 1861 -

RG9/506 Folio 5 Page 3

Upper? Street, Sutton Valence, Kent
Thomas Joy 38 Grocer Headcorn
Elizabeth 37 Egerton
William Harrison brother in law 24 Grocers Asst Egerton
+ 16yr old apprentice Thomas Terry and 19yr old house servant Eliza Ashbee

Regards
Cat

[lyn10]

sorry everyone but my internet on a go slow today so it is taken time to relpy to you all.

Cat about John I dont know nothing about  him but if he did deserted her, he is the first one in family to done that so far

[BettyofKent]

Baptisms, Headcorn

The children of Robert & Sarah JOY

1805 18th Aug Robert
1808 13th Mar John
1808 13th Mar Jesse
1810 8th Jul  Alfred
1812 8th Mar  Sarah Ann
1814 8th May  Edwin
1816 25th Dec  Winnifred
1819 25th Apr  Elizabeth
1823 29th Jun Thomas
From Edwin onwards, a note says: Headcorn (Farmer)
No note to say if John & Jesse were twins.

As one of the daughters was called Winifred, I wonder if this is Robert snr's baptism:
1785 6th Mar Robert JOY son of Robert & Winifred.
Nine children altogether for Robert & Winifred.
It would make Robert rather young at marriage, only 20 (assuming baptised as an infant) but there might have been a reason, given baby Robert's baptism date
Marriage Headcorn:
1805 12th Jun By Banns
Robert JOY  Headcorn
Sarah SULLY (W) Headcorn
Witnesses: Wm Wood, John Joy.

Marriage of Robert snr, in Headcorn
1782 7th Oct By Banns
Robert JOY  Ba  Headcorn
Winifred WOOD Sp Headcorn
Witnesses: Dvd Mannering, William Bills.

Only two other JOY marriages in Headcorn 1560-1836
John in 1779, & Thomas in 1756.


Betty

[groom]

Thomas and Elizabeth in 1861 -

RG9/506 Folio 5 Page 3
Upper? Street, Sutton Valence, Kent
Thomas Joy 38 Grocer Headcorn
Elizabeth 37 Egerton
William Harrison brother in law 24 Grocers Asst Egerton
+ 16yr old apprentice Thomas Terry and 19yr old house servant Eliza Ashbee

Regards
Cat

Good find, Cat - where was it, I couldn't see it anywhere 

Jan

[BettyofKent]

Only one male JOY Marriage in Headcorn 1837-1904

1850 9th October By Banns
Edwin JOY full age Farmer (Ba) son of Robert (Farmer)
Robert DEAN full age (Sp) dau of James (Farmer)
Wit: Edward Amos, Jemima Dean

Odd name for the Bride! I wonder if there's been a mistake somewhere along the line. Roberta perhaps?
But it doesn't match in with Edwin & Susanna on the censuses.

Betty

[BettyofKent]

Only one female JOY marriage in Headcorn 1837-1904

1869 23rd November By Banns
Edward PEARSON (22) Labourer (Ba) of Smarden, son of Edward (Farmer)
Sarah Ann JOY (18) (Sp) of Headcorn, dau of Edwin (Farmer)
Wit: Edwin Joy, Mary Stone


Betty

[lyn10]

Thank you Betty for all the dates on the kids. I don't know about John and Jesse if they were twin as I have not found Jesse on the 1841 census as he died in 1846  also I now have two more brothers to find as I didn't know anything about them.

the other two marriage in Headcorn,  Thomas 1756 hopefully than one should be my 5x Great Grandfather who married Elizabeth Chambers if it is them does it say who there witness were as I have hit a brickwall with Elizabeth side  can you let me know who john married I have a few John still to find out about.

[lyn10]

Thank Betty those marriage belong to my joy family a have just found out about  The Edwin marriage should be Susannah not Robert more likely the vicar got the marriage mixed up.

Thank you Cat and Groom for all the help with the census on the brothers lot of info to sort out.