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Joseph NICHOLSON NSW 1844?-1921
« on: Monday 28 September 09 08:43 BST (UK) »
Hi I've hit a wall with my Great Grandfather. I have his death Certificate giving his father as William and age as 77 place of birth as Orange NSW. The birth of one of his sons Anthony Patrick NICHOLSON 1885 gives Joseph's  age 42 but birth place Forbes NSW.
A search of NSW BDM gives a Joseph Nicholson son of William and Sarah Nicholson in 1844 but in Melbourne VIC. I have been able to eliminate this record as this Joseph Died as a young adult in Melbourne.
The Marriage Certificate for the marriage  to Elenora Grady in 1865 near Orange is of dubious quality as the name recorded is Nicholls and all the witnesses signed with there mark and they all look the same plus there are no details of birth or parent for both parties.
The certificate may have been completed some time after the event if indeed it took place at all.
I have checked the death certificates of William Nicholson around the Forbes area from 1840 to 1900 but still can't find one that might give me a clue.

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Re: Joseph NICHOLSON NSW 1844?-1921
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 September 09 10:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Coogeecs

I am a bit confused,   did you find Josephs birth in NSW

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A search of NSW BDM gives a Joseph Nicholson son of William and Sarah Nicholson in 1844 but in Melbourne VIC. I have been able to eliminate this record as this Joseph Died as a young adult in Melbourne.

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Re: Joseph NICHOLSON NSW 1844?-1921
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 September 09 10:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Daizi
I did find the birth of a Joseph Nicholson in the NSW BDM for 1844 which is actually a Baptism. It shows  the ceremony was performed in Parish of  St. James, Melbourne. Father is given as William Nicholson, Seaman and Mother Sarah. After this I found that this family continued to live in Melbourne and that this Joseph died at an early age. So this can't be the correct family.
No other births of a Joseph Nicholson appear to be registered in NSW around 1844.

Hope this resolves your confusion.

Thanks for your interest.

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Steve

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Re: Joseph NICHOLSON NSW 1844?-1921
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 September 09 11:07 BST (UK) »


Ahhh  ok,   now i get it.....

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Re: Joseph NICHOLSON NSW 1844?-1921
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 September 09 11:15 BST (UK) »

OK,   so is this the one,   

V18443366 28/1844   Joseph J Nicolson  parents William and Sarah....

They also seem to have had an,  Isabella,  John and Miles as children ?

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Re: Joseph NICHOLSON NSW 1844?-1921
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 September 09 13:47 BST (UK) »
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Re: Joseph NICHOLSON NSW 1844?-1921
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 September 09 14:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Daizi

Yes that is the one that is not my Joseph.
I've found him in NSW Police Gazzette for stealing cattle but just can't find his parents other than his father is William. I've tried Nicholls, Nichols, Nicholson, Nicolson, Nickols, Nickolls, Nickolson, Michols, Micholls, Micholson.

I've got a list of 36 William Nicholsons  that died between 1840 and 1920 and so eliminated 8 through age at time of death or ordering death Cert of those in the local area of Forbes and Orange NSW.

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Re: Joseph NICHOLSON NSW 1844?-1921
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 12:57 BST (UK) »
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The Marriage Certificate for the marriage  to Elenora Grady in 1865 near Orange is of dubious quality as the name recorded is Nicholls and all the witnesses signed with there mark and they all look the same plus there are no details of birth or parent for both parties

With regard to the marriage certificate does it say if the couple were married in a church?  and if so  what church and where please

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Re: Joseph NICHOLSON NSW 1844?-1921
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 16:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Jenn

The place of marriage is simply stated as Molong. 
Married in the: is blank
According to: rites of the Church of England.

There is very little detail in the cert. and appears to be written by John Smith a witness (landowner of Molong) all other parties signed with a cross which all appear the same. The only thing written in a different hand is the signature of the minister.

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