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MCILMOIL/CAMPBELL Newtown Limavady/Balteagh *quite long *
« on: Sunday 27 September 09 06:25 BST (UK) »
I'm attempting to do this from Australia, which can be very frustrating! Plus I' a newbie :-)

Trying to find marriage and further connections for my GGGrandparents in Londonderry.

Names are William MCILMOIL and Elizabeth Chambers CAMPBELL. As per several Scotland censuses (?) censi (?), they were born in Ireland in 1825 and 1827 respectively. It appears they moved from Ireland to Dunbarton in Scotland sometime between 1849 and 1851. On a daughter's birth in 1862 they are recorded as having being married on 12 March 1845 in Balteagh, then on another child's birth the marriage details are  12 March 1845 in Newtown Limavady.

Thanks to ScotlandsPeople I have their death info, which gives William's father's name as Samuel McIlmoil, occupation farm labourer, and Elizabeth's parents as John Campbell, occupation land steward, and Jane Chambers.

There was some research done in the 1980's by the Ulster Historial Foundation for us, which did not give a lot of joy, as the following results indicate:

Pres. Minister of Balteagh searched and failed to find anything.

The Rev from 1st Limavady Pres. Church found that there was info from 1845, searched 1845 - 1850 and found nothing
The Rev from 2nd Limavady Pres. Church found that the first recordings start at 22 May 1845.
The Rev from Drumachose and Derramore Pres. Church found that Drumachose start in June 1845 and those of Derramore start in May 1845.

There are a couple of McIlmoils on the Griffith Valuatios, and quite a few John Campbells. but I have no idea if they are relevent or not. or how to acertain it.

I would not be surprised if the McIlmoil name was something different, as it has morphed into McMiles here in Australia, they seemed to change names in those days on a regular basis!

So, if anyone has any thoughts on what step I should take next, I would be very grateful.
Thanks very much.

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Re: MCILMOIL/CAMPBELL Newtown Limavady/Balteagh *quite long *
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 27 September 09 07:52 BST (UK) »
Hi,
    Welcome to Rootschat. I have found one marriage which, if correct, throws your dates a bit.

18 Dec 1835 John Campbell married Jane Chambers in Christchurch Church of Ireland, Drumachose Parish, Newton Limavady (now called Limavady).

John Campbell is a very common name in the area but Chambers is less so.

Regards
Stewart, Irwin, Morrison, Haslett, Murrell - Dungiven area Co. Londonderry
Browne, Barrett -Co.Armagh
Neil, Smyth _Co. Antrim

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Re: MCILMOIL/CAMPBELL Newtown Limavady/Balteagh *quite long *
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 27 September 09 08:17 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that, kingskerswell,

I have looked at a number of copies of the original birth details via ScotlandsPeople and it is pretty clear that William & Elizabeth say they were married in March 1845 in all of them.

I have the oldest child of them born in abt 1846 in Ireland, and my GGrandfather born in Dunbarton in 1856. They went on to have 9 children, the last in 1867.

Would there be any way to acertain if this marriage you've found is one of the ones I am looking for?   Perhaps they had children and then got married later? Dunno if that was common practice.

At least with Chambers marginally less common I might have some sort of chance, I guess.

I'll just keep plugging away at the old brick wall!

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Re: MCILMOIL/CAMPBELL Newtown Limavady/Balteagh *quite long *
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 08 July 12 21:00 BST (UK) »
I would look to the spelling of McImoil as McIlmoyle as my parents were friends with an Edward McIlmoyle who emigrated to America in the 70's but originated from Londonderry Northern Ireland.











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Re: MCILMOIL/CAMPBELL Newtown Limavady/Balteagh *quite long *
« Reply #4 on: Monday 09 July 12 09:34 BST (UK) »
I know this is later  than your search but there was a Reverend RJ McILmoyle  minister in the Reformed Presbyterian Church orginally from Limavady. 
 Could they be ' Convenanters'.  He was in Faughan Reformed Church in 1929.

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Re: MCILMOIL/CAMPBELL Newtown Limavady/Balteagh *quite long *
« Reply #5 on: Monday 09 July 12 17:42 BST (UK) »
The Rev McIlmoyle preached in Dervock Reformed Presbyterian Church and was also a well known sheep breeder and exhibited his 4 legged flock at agricultural shows.

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Re: MCILMOIL/CAMPBELL Newtown Limavady/Balteagh *quite long *
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 July 12 19:00 BST (UK) »
My maiden name is McIlmoyle.  I live near the church you mentioned - Balteagh and there are 2, the Parish or Church or Ireland and the Presbyterian.  Balteagh is approximately 6 miles from Limavady and from my own family research most of the marriages are attributed to the Balteagh Parish/Church of Ireland during early 1800's.  I notice most of your research with ministers was of the Presbyterian connection so perhaps you might have researched the wrong church??

The Rev RJ McIlmoyle mentioned here was my father's cousin and there was a book produced about his famous sheep both animal and in the ministry!  However I think the McIlmoyle's you might refer to came from Ardgarvan, Limavady and are a different connection altogether.

Sorry to not be any more help - your dates are quite early 1800's and it is difficult to go back as far as that because of the destruction of a lot of records.

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Re: MCILMOIL/CAMPBELL Newtown Limavady/Balteagh *quite long *
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 07 October 12 06:46 BST (UK) »
Terrydo 73
Whilst prowling through rootschat I came across your posting, where you mention Balteagh Presbyterian church. I had been given to understand that there was only a Balteagh C. of I. The ancestor I'm searching for is a William Gibson of Carrick - he was Presbyterian. His son Alexander Gibson b 1833 m'd in Bovevagh C. of I. but I can find no record of his baptism, in C. of I. records, and being Presbyterian, living at Carrick, maybe his baptism was in Balteagh Pres'n. The purpose of all this is - can you tell me the minister of Balteagh Pres'n church and address, so maybe I can get him to look in his records for this family. Thank you, in anticipation of your reply. Betsy Harper.

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Re: MCILMOIL/CAMPBELL Newtown Limavady/Balteagh *quite long *
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 07 October 12 07:56 BST (UK) »
Agnetta,
           The Presbyterian congregation of Balteagh was formed in 1823 and the first minister was appointed in 1824. The church is situated in the townland of Lislane. Before this many of the Presbyterians worshipped in Drumachose Presbyterian Church in Limavady. This church is unusually built in the shape of a cross where one arm of the cross was known as the Balteagh Isle.
           I think that marriage and baptism records are much later than 1824

Regards
Stewart, Irwin, Morrison, Haslett, Murrell - Dungiven area Co. Londonderry
Browne, Barrett -Co.Armagh
Neil, Smyth _Co. Antrim