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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #306 on: Sunday 01 January 12 19:21 GMT (UK) »
Dear LORDLINE,
Thank you very much for putting those 31 photographs of Spring Bank on your website. They definitely give me a good impression of how the street looked like in former times, especially when there lived so many German pork butchers in the city of Hull and had a couple of shops in Spring Bank, too.

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German pork butchers in Britain and in Ireland

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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #307 on: Sunday 01 January 12 21:30 GMT (UK) »

  It doesn't surprise me that Frederick had another first name - Johan Michael seem's to have mainly used Michael, and the Kramers also had a habit of dropping their first names.

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Kathie

Hi there,

Sorry to butt in on this thread - I wanted to point out that the first given names are usually the sponsors/god parents names and quite often were family members.   Also parents would think about the future of the child and ask a well heeled member of the community to be a sponsor in the hope that the sponsor would act as a benefactor and/or apprentice the child when it grew older.   e.g. my grandmother was baptised Sophia Edith Flamme (known as Edie) in Hull 1884 and it was noted that a Sophie Christiene Hedwig Ehlers, grandmother. had "donated" the name.  Sophie Ehlers had died in Steinlah, Germany 1881.
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Quite often it's difficult finding a German on early UK census because the ennumerator/census asks for first names which to a new immigrant means their first donated name on their official documentation.
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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #308 on: Monday 02 January 12 20:40 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Rena and welcome to the thread.

LORDLINE, that is a fantastic photograph, thanks for posting
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Ireland (Donegal-Rosses, Mullaghduff, Boyle Co Roscommon & other counties); Donachie, Finnigan, McGinley, Brennan, Sharkey, Boyle, Sweenie, Kearns, Balmartin, Martin, McDonald, Irvine

England (Carlisle); Ashbridge,Armstrong, Cavers, Wall, Dixon
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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #309 on: Thursday 05 January 12 18:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi folks
Can I jump into the thread to ask if anyone knows anything about Louis Most and his wife Kate who were German Pork butchers in Widnes, they are on 1891 census with Louis aged 28 they both came from Wurttemburg.

I see from Swissgill that she has a family member called Louis Pfisterer who also ran German pork butchers in Widnes, I wonder if they are related or if Louis Most was related to the Yorkshire Mosts who are also Pork butchers.

Louis died young of a strangulated bowel caused by lifting a new sausage machine there is a very detailed obituary for him in the local paper, they had lost both their children in the years before, Kate continued to run the shop but as far as I can find did not remarry.


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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #310 on: Thursday 05 January 12 19:06 GMT (UK) »
Welcome Leslie good to have you onboard, I believe the Rootschat rules is that you have to make 3 posts before receiving further mails, so go ahead and make another 2 posts

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Ireland (Donegal-Rosses, Mullaghduff, Boyle Co Roscommon & other counties); Donachie, Finnigan, McGinley, Brennan, Sharkey, Boyle, Sweenie, Kearns, Balmartin, Martin, McDonald, Irvine

England (Carlisle); Ashbridge,Armstrong, Cavers, Wall, Dixon
England (Blackpool) Hall, Barker
Germany (Hohebach,Württemberg) Wahl

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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #311 on: Thursday 05 January 12 19:08 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Johnboy post number 2.

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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #312 on: Thursday 05 January 12 19:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi Folks
Post number 3 I am exhausted having just read the full German Pork butchers thread, hope someone can help with the Most family.

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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #313 on: Thursday 05 January 12 19:23 GMT (UK) »
Welcome Lesley, yes indeed, there is a lot of reading and it is a great thread, and I'm sure somebody will be able to point you in the right direction, best of luck

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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #314 on: Thursday 05 January 12 20:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lesley,

I did some research on Louis Most but will have to go through it again. If I'm right in thinking, he married Katherine Bauer in Bradford, Yorks in 1884.

Louis Pfister married Christina Bower (Bauer) in Bradford in 1881. Louis was a brother to Friederike Pfisterer who married John Heinzmann and they settled in Northwich, Cheshire. They were my grandfather's cousins.

Also living in Widnes were Christina's brother, John Bauer (Bower) married to Mary Pfisterer.

I'll get back to you on this after I've gone through it tomorrow.

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Whitlow: Witton-cum-Twambrooks/Northwich
Bowers: Marthall, Siddington, Cheshire
Owen: Cheshire
Pfisterer (Fisher): West Riding Yks 1850-1875
Fisher (Pfisterer): Des Moines, Iowa 1886-
Wallis: West Riding Yks/Des Moines, Iowa, 1892-
Heinzmann: Hull/Northwich
Pfisterer, Heinzmann, Künzelsau, Baden-Württemberg
Brueck: Kocherstetten B-W
Volpp: Morsbach B-W
Schluchterer: Künzelsau, B-W