German Pork Butchers in Britain

[Histres]

Dear 0113vanny, hello again,

in the 1881 census I found two Wittman families being pork butchers and originating from Germany.
1. Frederick Wittman, *1842, married to Christina, *1847, 315 High Street, Attercliffe, Sheffield
2. George Wittman, * 1845, married to Mathilde, * 1852, 7 Waterworks Street, Sculcoates, Hull. In the family there lived also Dorothea Wittmann, *1813, mother of head. And there was a servant registered at the same address: Christina Schum, *1861 in Württemberg. Interestingly enough, in 1891, there was the shop of George Hohenrein, another German pork butcher at that address. He apprenticed a Christian Wilhelm Küstner, *1873 in Rüblingen and there were three other assistant butchers who also came from Württemberg: Henry Kulsch, Marie Schumann and Rosina Kurz who were also living at the same address. By 1904 Küstner had his own pork butcher’s shop at 165 Princess Road, Manchester.
In Otley there was only one German pork butcher at the time: The Weegmans who still exist. Perhaps you can phone them and ask whether they know where their forefather originated from.
In my personally created butcher archive I found a Frederick Steinbach, *1858 in Langenbeutingen, pork butcher in Liverpool and married there in 1885 to Louisa Edwards.
Perhaps this information may be of some help to you.

Best wishes
Histres

[0113vanny]

ah!  well, I think there is a strong possibility that Matilda and Rose Steinbach were sisters to Frederick.   they were on their way to Liverpool, family legend tells. Can i find out if they were all born in that same village as Frederick?  Their father was called Frederick and mother Julia.

thank you for this.

[Histres]

Hi 0113vanny,

There is the possibility to look up all the children's names of Frederick and Julia Steinbach in the Langenbeutingen Church Archive or in the central protestant church archive in Stuttgart, where the books are on microfilm, if ever the family once lived there. I will have a look, when I'm in Stuttgart again. However, I don't know yet, when this will be. If you need some quicker evidence, you should write a letter to Langenbeutingen's minister.
On the marriage certificates of Rose and Matilde their birth places are not necessarily given.   

Best regards
Histres

[0113vanny]

thanks

[johnbhoy]

Not been on for a wee while, good to see people getting some positive results.
Histress my good friend, you certainly do a lot of the ground work in assisting people, your a good man 

Johnbhoy

[Bethgem]

I agree with you, Johnbhoy. And I would add that Histres is remarkable.

Welcome back, lad! Great to hear from you. I hope your searches have been successful. Our own Family Tree has grown too!

Bethgem

P.S. couldn't get the smiley to show properly; so not sure if they are working.

[johnbhoy]

I agree with you, Johnbhoy. And I would add that Histres is remarkable.

Welcome back, lad! Great to hear from you. I hope your searches have been successful. Our own Family Tree has grown too!

Bethgem

P.S. couldn't get the smiley to show properly; so not sure if they are working.

Hi Bethgem

Great that your Family Tree has grown, hope you had a Merry Christmas.

Histress traced the Family all the way back to the beginning of the 19th century, unbelievable.
I'm currently waiting on a reply from the Red Cross in Geneva to see if they have the internment records for Christian Frederick Wall, who was in Knockaloe Prison camp, these can take up to 2 years to get a reply, so I've got to be patient...something I don't have a lot of LOL 

[Bethgem]

Hi Johnbhoy

Hope you had a Merry Christmas as well. 

Histres found a branch in my tree back to the middle of the 17th century, so that's truly amazing.

Having to wait up to 2 years for the reply from the Red Cross in Geneva is unusual, surely? You could visit them yourself, and have a bit of a holiday, and maybe get the answer quicker! (?) 

[Histres]

Hello altogether,

I just want to say thank you to all those of whom I received such a great deal of praise for my help and assistance in finding their German forefathers and relatives.
Nevertheless, I also want to express my appreciation towards all those who helped and supported me by sending lots of information I needed. They deserve my utmost credit, too.

All of you I wish a happy, successful and prosperous New Year.
Histres