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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #81 on: Monday 25 January 10 22:30 GMT (UK) »
Hello to you again Amanda! One more message to go! Go on! You can do it!
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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #82 on: Tuesday 26 January 10 01:35 GMT (UK) »
Hello there
I am researching the same family - Christian Frederick Wall for a descendant of his son Roland Wall born 1915 in Carlise.
I have literally only just started looking and have found them in the census the same as you did John when you started.
Great to make contact. I tried to send you a message but it won't let me.
Amanda

Hello there Amanda and welcome to the web site, the folk on here are always willing to help and are very friendly.
As Bethgem said, you'll have to make another post so that you can send me a personal message, and then we'll be able to discuss and send each other the information that we both have.

John

Bethgem...cheers  ;)
Scotland (Helensburgh, Glasgow, Banff, Campbelltown); MacKenzie, McKenzie, Donnachie, Donachie, McClafferty, Fee, Scullion, Cairns, McDonagh, McFinney,Chalmers,Stewart, McAllister

Ireland (Donegal-Rosses, Mullaghduff, Boyle Co Roscommon & other counties); Donachie, Finnigan, McGinley, Brennan, Sharkey, Boyle, Sweenie, Kearns, Balmartin, Martin, McDonald, Irvine

England (Carlisle); Ashbridge,Armstrong, Cavers, Wall, Dixon
England (Blackpool) Hall, Barker
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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #83 on: Tuesday 26 January 10 10:35 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone  :)
Speak soon John.

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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #84 on: Tuesday 26 January 10 16:40 GMT (UK) »
Email sent Amanda with attachments, if it's to big, mail me and I'll break it down or winzip

John
Scotland (Helensburgh, Glasgow, Banff, Campbelltown); MacKenzie, McKenzie, Donnachie, Donachie, McClafferty, Fee, Scullion, Cairns, McDonagh, McFinney,Chalmers,Stewart, McAllister

Ireland (Donegal-Rosses, Mullaghduff, Boyle Co Roscommon & other counties); Donachie, Finnigan, McGinley, Brennan, Sharkey, Boyle, Sweenie, Kearns, Balmartin, Martin, McDonald, Irvine

England (Carlisle); Ashbridge,Armstrong, Cavers, Wall, Dixon
England (Blackpool) Hall, Barker
Germany (Hohebach,Württemberg) Wahl


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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #85 on: Tuesday 26 January 10 16:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Everyone,

I should like to join in if I may. I am currently researching the Beyer Family who were Pork Butchers in Bradford, Yorkshire. Johann Karl Beyer was born at Kocherstetten, Kuenzelsau, Wuerttemberg, in 1866, the son of Frederick Beyer and Catherine Koberer. He applied for emigration at Wuerttemberg in August 1881 and shortly arrived in England. In 1888 he married into another Bradford/German Pork Butcher Family from Wuerttemberg by marrying Anna Margaret Pfeiffer, the daughter of Charles Frederick Pfeiffer and Katherine Bruck and set up his own shop. He obtained naturalisation in 1900.
The Beyers are still around in Yorkshire.
I've not been able to track the link back in Kocherstetten as yet.


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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #86 on: Tuesday 26 January 10 19:29 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to the board, SouthYorkie. I've not written in all caps - don't need to shout!
You have come to the right place! There seems to have been a hell of a lot of butchers coming here from Germany in those times. I am surprised no-one in the media have picked up on this and made a good documentary! It would be a bit of a rival of the BBC's "Who Do You Think You Are" programme! All that delving into people's lives, and they pay for it too!
I don't know your family, sorry, but maybe someone on here can help to point you in the right direction. You already have a good start, I see, with the information you've given. I had help on here. I hope you will have the same with yours.
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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #87 on: Tuesday 26 January 10 19:56 GMT (UK) »
Welcome SouthYorkie,

That's a coincidence! My great grandmother, Margarethe Brueck was born 1843 in Kocherstetten and married Hermann Pfisterer (I assume Kuenzelsau) in 1864 at Rotherham Parish Church. They had 2 sons. One, my grandfather, followed his cousin, John Heinzmann, to Northwich, Cheshire. He had a butcher's shop in Witton Steet. My grandfather had a garage and one or two shops there.

Hermann Pfisterer's sister Louisa, married Christian Lindenberger in Bradford, also a butcher. One of their cousins, Louis Pfisterer was a butcher in Widnes.

They were all from and around Kuenzelsau but I have yet to follow them all up.
Whitlow: Witton-cum-Twambrooks/Northwich
Bowers: Marthall, Siddington, Cheshire
Owen: Cheshire
Pfisterer (Fisher): West Riding Yks 1850-1875
Fisher (Pfisterer): Des Moines, Iowa 1886-
Wallis: West Riding Yks/Des Moines, Iowa, 1892-
Heinzmann: Hull/Northwich
Pfisterer, Heinzmann, Künzelsau, Baden-Württemberg
Brueck: Kocherstetten B-W
Volpp: Morsbach B-W
Schluchterer: Künzelsau, B-W

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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #88 on: Tuesday 26 January 10 21:11 GMT (UK) »
I only had confirmation that my ggrandmother was Brück (Brueck, Bruck) when I received her first son's birth certificate. Up until then she had been transcribed as "Brink".
Her father's name on her marriage certificate was George (Georg). Her brother was Johann Brück who called himself John Briggs. He was born in 1850, she in 1843 and on the 1871 census of Charles F Pfeiffer and Katharine, there is K's sister, Barbara Bruck. I must write again to Germany to see if I can find this family.
Whitlow: Witton-cum-Twambrooks/Northwich
Bowers: Marthall, Siddington, Cheshire
Owen: Cheshire
Pfisterer (Fisher): West Riding Yks 1850-1875
Fisher (Pfisterer): Des Moines, Iowa 1886-
Wallis: West Riding Yks/Des Moines, Iowa, 1892-
Heinzmann: Hull/Northwich
Pfisterer, Heinzmann, Künzelsau, Baden-Württemberg
Brueck: Kocherstetten B-W
Volpp: Morsbach B-W
Schluchterer: Künzelsau, B-W

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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #89 on: Friday 19 February 10 11:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,

Just thought I would add my German Pork Butcher to the collection  ;)  The earliest I have is George Michael Schmidt (bn 1822) from Weutemberg who was a POrk Butcher in Westminster (according to the 1851 and 1871 census).  His son, Leonard William Schmidt born in Westminster, carried on the tradition and indeed passed it onto his son - James Schmidt (bn 1889). 

I lose the Schmidts around the 1911 census - I suspect that they may have Anglicised their name (despite having been in the UK for 50 odd years  ::)).