German Pork Butchers in Britain

[SwissGill]

As there are many new contributors to this topic, I would like to remind everyone,
that I have collected some links to other RootsChat topics here:
RootsChat Topics: German Pork Butchers
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,509347.0.html

And - a long shot ....
I'm also in a german family history forum, so I've added a topic there, in the Baden-Württemburg board,
listing some of the names and places mentioned here, with a link to this topic.

Like I said, a long shot, but maybe something will come of it


Bob

Thanks a lot Bob,

Gill

[SwissGill]

Here's a bit more info:

http://blackcountryhistory.org/collections/getrecord/GB145_WRI_1_5_2_170/

[Schoch]

Hi Gill,

As usual you seem to find whatever I ask for.  Thank you very much !!   I have been informed that it was not unusual for a German Pork Butcher to list his profession as "horse slaughterer".  On an earlier post I mentioned that I did not know if my Grandfather ever went back into the trade after WW1, well it looks like he did although he seems not to have owned his own shop.


Thanks Again

Richard

[SwissGill]

I was thinking about our ancestors - pork butchers - and wondered how many of you know of how they lived their lives in England.

I really thought that they ran pork butcher's shops, sold pork, pork pies, etc. and that was it.

Far from it. I am subscribed to The British Newspaper Archives Online and have read various stories about them, especially in the North of England.

The news snippets have informed me of their hams being stolen - of their scales being unjust - of intentions to marry which were never fulfilled - of their helping to ensure that the German poor in their areas were certain of a Merry Christmas - of their being pigeon and bird fanciers - of owning show dogs (to the point that they became famous) of violence (not much) against other citizens.

I think that their dwellings were not just houses but had back yards and fields belonging to them where they kept animals (other than pigs).

If anyone has any information in this light, it would be very welcome. Genealogy is not just about collecting data but finding out about how our ancestors lived.

BerlinBob

would this need another thread or an under thread?

In anticipation of some interesting posts

Gill

[Schoch]

Gill

On the theme of your last post, my Grandfather used to grow his own tabacco and hang the crop in a shed to cure.  He then "pressed" it into solid blocks of very black looking material (more like tar to look at).  He would then scrape off what he needed for his pipe...what a smell it was  . I think that he also "sold" it in the neighbourhood ( I think it was tobacco  )

Richard

[Histres]

Hello all,
I was away on holiday. Being back again I found several new posts in the thread. Here are just some short answers to various aspects:

Rothermelbird: SwissGill is right. the family you were talking about is called Schonhut or also Shonhut. Originally they were Schönhut in Germany. I have listed 14 emigrants who were descendants of three related Schönhut families in Oberhof, Gaisbach and Künzelsau.

The Schochs and Schönhuts are not linked, although their home villages are only about 8 miles apart from each other.

Schoch: Dear Richard, I know the story of the Hohenreins in Hull. There is quite an amount of material on the Hohenreins in Hull's town archive: the Hohenrein Collection, Local Studies Library, central Library, Hull. The family's history was published by John Markham - A family at war in "Keep the Home Fires Burning", Highgate Publications (Beverley) Ltd, 1988, pp. 31 - 52.

You also find some interesting information on a Hohenrein via this link:  http://ruhleben.tripod.com/id7.html and as well in this thread by Richard Funk in Reply #241 on: Sunday 03 April 11.

[Schoch]

Hi Histres,
Been away as well in the nations capitol.

My interest in the Hull area is because my Grandfather was there during WW2 and may have owned or worked in a butchers shop.  Thanks to you and Swissgill I am slowly piecing together his life from 1912 to 1945.
Still trying to sort out the Hull connection though 

Richard

[libbie]

I'm new to new to RootsChat and to this particular dicussion.  Am not sure  about the right way to make a post, so just chose "reply" although this is not a reply to anything, but rather a quest for information.  Please forgive my ignorance in this situation.

I have found the dicussion of Pork Butchers very interesting and wonder if anyone knows of my great Uncle Friedrich Karl Horn, who was first a butcher in Bermondsey and then moved to Sheffield.  He came from Ingelfinen in Wuerttemberg and married  Christiane (Nina) Kress , also from Ingelfingen at Whitechapel in  1894.  They later moved to Stepney.  I don't know exactly when the Horn's or Kress's came to London, but would like to get that information amongst any other available.  Thanks  Appreciated.  Thanks.

[SwissGill]

Hello Libbie

There is a marriage for Friedrich Karl Horn and Marie Christiane Kress, Whitechapel, in 1903, but none for 1894. In 1911, they and their children are living in Ratcliffe, London.

There is also a Kress Familien Stammbaum containing Friedrich Karl Horn's name on Ancestry but it is private and I cannot access it.