Looking for the O'Briens.

[judge99]

Hi
The marriage we came up with for Matthew Brien and Mary Daly was 13 May 1863 in Carnaross ,Co Meath which seems to be right.Just noticed that I mentioned Mary K O'Brien was a witness on Teresa marriage certificate and this must be the Mary on the list of children. I recall my mother talking about 'Big Molly' who was a Mary and my mother was little Molly.
 

[judge99]

Hi Tara
Just realised I should add to that growing list of names with William born 1894 but said to be in Dublin. William  in 1911 census for Dublin living with his Aunty Bridget  O'Brien( Matthew sister?) at 20 Leeson Park Avenue and this was the address Annie O'Brien Larrigy gave as her address on her marriage certificate.
Phil

[taramcdsmall]

Hi Phil

It seems mad us coming back to this BUT do you have something to say that Teresa's mum was Mary Daly ?

NO WAY was Mary Daly Brien the Mum of anyone in 1894 !!!!!!!!!!!!

First she was too old - second Matthew died in 1894 !

This is a long shot BUT could Teresa actually have been right about her age AND that in fact her father was Matthew Junior NOT Matthew Senior !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

The Bridget on the 1911 Census could have in fact been the DAUGHTER of Matthew Brien and then that would make William, Bridget's nephew !

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

IF Teresa was the daughter of Mary Daly Brien AND registered the death then surely she was in Ofaly and not Dublin - could this be her in 1901 ?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Tullamore_Urban/Church_Street/1471964/

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

Phil

Did you see this ?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FRWT-W5H

Tara

[judge99]

Hi Tara
I had not seen that Elizabeth one...may well be another. On the subject of Teresa ....but she is the daughter of Matthew and Mary according to church records and yes big age difference. The problem has always been whether the ages stated  on death certificate are so far out but Mary would have been 46 when she had Teresa and I have found others in the family tree having children around that age....It doesn't happen so much today but then it seemed more regular then.Teresa would have been 17/18 when her mother died and when she registered the death.
Phil

[taramcdsmall]

Hi Phil

No you mentioned a son called William born in 1894 !

Tara

[judge99]

Hi Tara

Bridget in the 1911 census was 70 that is more likely to be Matthew sister. The Teresa in Tullamore is 19  in 1901  which make more sense as the church record for  Teresa shows date of birth as 17 June 1885