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Help to find details for Mary
« on: Saturday 26 September 09 19:49 BST (UK) »
I have a Great Aunt Mary Lee born Whitehaven Cumberland in 1884. She emigrated to Canada. The only info I have is that on 1911 census she has already gone from the UK  The family story tells that she met a young Canadian chap and eventually married him. I have no name for him and have been unable to find a marriage for her in the UK, so I am assuming she married in Canada. I have also been unable to find Mary on any passenger lists.I understand that Mary sadly died either in child birth or shortly after the birth of her child a girl called Beatrice. There is family suggestion that they were in BC Canada.
I do have a letter written in the 194o's from Beatrice giving an address of  North Road New Westminster. I understand this address no longer exists.I
Would be VERY grateful for anything anybody could come up with for me. Thanks in advance
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Weaver, Wilcock, Heywood, (Leigh Lancashire)
Lee, Mc Quirk, Mc Guirk, Mc Gurk, Blenkinsop, Oldfield, Hilton (Whitehaven Cumbria)

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Re: Help to find details for Mary
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 September 09 21:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Lincsbabe

Is this her birth registration - with a middle name?

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Mary Louisa LEE - Sep Qtr 1884 Whitehaven

The letter written in the 1940's - do you have a more precise year &  was it written in an adult tone and hand?
Are there any clues however small in the letter, about the writer's family etc?

From Googling, it would appear North Road, New Westminster BC still exists - is it a more precise house address on that road that is no longer there?

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Re: Help to find details for Mary
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 March 10 20:49 GMT (UK) »
This isn't of any help to you, but just to keep your spirits up, don't give up hope!  My grandfather's parents emigrated to Canada in the 1870's with their 7 chldren, they returned to Liverpool fairly soon, leaving the eldest daughters in Canada as they had married there.  I had no idea what any of the married names were, the only clue I had was a photograph of my grandfather with one of his sisters and her husband, and a half written letter that had been left by his bed when he died in 1921, addressed to 'Dear Polly' at Westminster Road Toronto.  A couple of years ago I saw a message on the ancestsry message board enquiring about a Mary Pritchard born in Liverpool the same year as his sister, so I emailed, and sure enough it was one of her descendents!  This was confirmed by our exchanging copies of photographs where she was wearing the same dress as in my photo, and a Toronto census showing the famly living in Westminster Road.  Just keep on looking, the information is out there someplace.
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Re: Help to find details for Mary
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 March 10 21:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lincsbabe,

Here is a link to search BMD's in BC.

http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-6ED642/gbsearch/Marriages

There were 39 marriages that came up with "Mary Lee" between 1872 and 1933.

Also on a side note, there were 22 "Beatrice's" born in New Westminster btwn 1872 and 1903.

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Re: Help to find details for Mary
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 March 10 21:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lincsbabe,

Do you know Mary's parents' names? 

I found a marriage registration in Ontario for a Louisa Mary Lee, b 1884, daughter of Fred Lee and Lizzie Porter, to Alex Thos Cauchard.  Marriage took place in York on May 31, 1905.

Could this be your Mary?  If you would like more information, pm your email address to me and I'll send you the image.

Susan

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Re: Help to find details for Mary
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 March 10 23:11 GMT (UK) »
The only Mary Lee born about 1885 in Whitehaven I could see on the 1891 and 1901 England census was the daughter of Joseph and Catharine Lee.

The Free BMD has a marriage for a Mary L. Lee in Whitehaven, Cumberland that was registered in 4th quarter of 1911 (vol 10b, p 1205). The two men on the same page had the surnames Hodgson and Hudson. There is a death for a Mary Louisa Hodgson in Coquitlam, BC dated 18 Aug 1973. Her age is a couple years off but not too much as she was 86 when she died which would be a birth year of about 1887.

I only searched the index of the 1911 England census entering Mary Lee, born 1885 +/- 2 years and born in Whitehaven and there was one match in the results (it indicated institution, not household or vessel). Have you eliminated this Mary as being yours?

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
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Re: Help to find details for Mary
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 22 August 10 00:38 BST (UK) »
The Toronto Public Library could possibly look up (for free-if you are out of country) Under the surname, and various years to see where if so they moved to.  Their email address is:  torontopubliclibrary.ca
the address is 228 Roncesvalles Ave, Toronto, M6R 2L7, The Library is located about 2 blocks from Westminster Ave.--The is no Westminster Road listed for all of Toronto.  Their phone number is area code 416-393-7671.Hope you are able to get some help from them.
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Re: Help to find details for Mary
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 31 August 10 14:23 BST (UK) »
Not sure why Lincsbabe  isn't responding, but sometimes a large spike in rootschat users online can cause notification to turn off...so have p.m. 'd ...Don't know if it's correct but good sleuthing jacquie!!
This would have to be the marriage March quarter of 1880  in Whitehaven dist.  vol. 10b  p. 745
Catherine BLENKINSOP and  Joseph Wellington Lee
If that is Catherine Blenkinsop in 1861 as age 11 then she's removed a decade or so from her age, so creative math may run in the family ;D ( she says she was only just BORN in 1861 on the 1881)

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Re: Help to find details for Mary
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 31 August 10 18:00 BST (UK) »
Gosh folks thanks for the replies. It was nearly a year ago since I posted my request.
 I will now try to keep abreast of any developments.

Yes the parents of my Mary Lee are Joseph Lee and Catherine (Blenkinsop) from Whitehaven.. I have been told by my Aunt since my original post that Mary married someone in England and was widdowed quickly (no name for this chap) probably why I couldn't find Mary Lee on any passenger lists. Her year of birth is @1885. The last view of her is on 1901 census at age 16. Interestingly enough. I recently glimpsed her on the 1911 aged 26 but she had been crossed off., she was listed as being in service and still single.   I don't have access to the 1911 , so have been unable to see if she was listed anywhere else. I wondered if she had been listed by mistake by the person who filled in the form. I have tried to see if the 2 surnames for marriages that looked as though they may fit but couldn't tie them in aith a death for the spouse, I couldn't tie any of the 2 surnames either on any passenger lists.  Lincsbabe  PS I have turned my notifier back on thanks Guys  :-[ :-[
Weaver, Wilcock, Heywood, (Leigh Lancashire)
Lee, Mc Quirk, Mc Guirk, Mc Gurk, Blenkinsop, Oldfield, Hilton (Whitehaven Cumbria)