Charles John Ettridge

[Robot789]

I have recently 'stumbled' on a rootschat message placed some time ago by Aulus. Charles John is part of my family and I have considerable information on the ancestry and descendatnts.
The following is an extract from my FTM Genealogical report, much edited to fit the message board space.

Descendants of Thomas Etridge
(my 2nd Great Grandfather)

Generation No. 1

1.  THOMAS3 ETRIDGE  was born 26 Apr 1817 in Shoreditch  and died 22 May 1884 in Haggerston.  He married ELIZABETH BROOKS 11 Apr 1841 in St John the Baptist, Hoxton, daughter of GEORGE BROOKS and ANN ?.  

The 1861 Census for 35 Reform Place gives the following:

   Thomas Etteridge   HEAD   M40   Bricklayer   Mddx, St Luke
   Elizabeth      WIFE   M39         Mddx, St Luke
   Thomas George      U17   Chair Carver   Mddx, St Luke
   Edward John      U15         Mddx, St Luke
   Rebecca         U13         Mddx, St Luke
   Charles         U7         Mddx, St Luke
   Elizabeth         U10         Mddx, St Luke
   Joseph         U5         Mddx, St Luke
   Charlotte         U8 mnths         Mddx, St Luke

The 1871 Census gives the following information for 2 Gauber Street, Shoreditch:

   Thomas Ettridge   HEAD   M53   House Painter   Mdx, New Street Road
   Elizabeth      WIFE   M51         Surrey, Camberwell
   Thomas         U27   Chair & Sofa Carver
                     Mdx, City
   Edward         U23   House Painter   Mdx, St Luke
   Rebecca         U21   Bow Maker   Mdx, St Luke
   Elizabeth         U19   Fancy Trimmer   Mdx, St Luke
   Charles         #17   Chair & Sofa Carver
                     Mdx, St Luke
   George         #14   Paperer      Mdx, St Luke
   Charlotte         #11   Scholar      Mdx, St Luke
   James         #4   Scholar      Bethnal Green

Children of THOMAS ETRIDGE and ELIZABETH BROOKS are:
   i.   SUSANNA ELIZABETH4 ETTRIDGE, b. 17 Feb 1842, East London, St Joseph.
   ii.   THOMAS GEORGE ETTRIDGE, b. 20 Dec 1843, Holywell and Moorfields, Shoreditch, Middlesex.
2.   iii.   EDWARD JOHN ETTRIDGE, b. 22 Feb 1846, Shoreditch, Middlesex; d. 27 Mar 1896, Haggerston.
   iv.   REBECCA ETTRIDGE, b. 23 Feb 1848, City Road, St Luke, Middlesex.
   v.   ELIZABETH CHARLOTTE ETTRIDGE (Source: I.G.I..), b. 06 Oct 1850, Holywell and Moorfields, Shoreditch, Middlesex.
3.   vi.   CHARLES JOHN ETTRIDGE, b. 22 Apr 1853, St Luke, White Cross Street, Middlesex.
   vii.   GEORGE ETTRIDGE, b. 09 Jun 1855, White Cross St, St Luke, Middlesex.
                viii.   JOSEPH ETTRIDGE, b. 18 Mar 1859, White Cross St, St Luke, Middlesex.
4.   ix.   CHARLOTTE ETTRIDGE, b. 22 Jul 1860, St. Luke, Mddx, White Cross Street.
   x.   MARY ANN ETTRIDGE, b. 09 Oct 1863, White Cross St, St Luke, Middlesex.
   xi.   JAMES ETTRIDGE, b. Abt. 1867, Holywell, Shoreditch (Source: 1871 Census. RG10/489/38).


3.  CHARLES JOHN4 ETTRIDGE was born 22 Apr 1853 in St Luke, White Cross Street, Middlesex, St Luke, White Cross Street, Middlesex.  He married ELIZA SARAH ETTRIDGE 15 Dec 1873 in St John the Baptist, Hoxton, daughter of EDWARD ETTRIDGE and SARAH HIGGINS.  She was born 04 Dec 1856 in St Luke, City Road, Middlesex and died Bef. 1901.

Notes for CHARLES JOHN ETTRIDGE:
On the marriage Certificate of Charles John Ettridge to Eliza Sarah Ettridge , Charles is described as a Carver, living at 4 Pimlico Walk. His father Thomas is described as a Painter. Witnesses to the marriage are Thomas Ettridge and Rebecca Farrington.

Eliza is described as a MINOR on the marriage certificate. She was born on the 14th December 1856 and she would have been 17 at the time of her marriage on the 15th December 1873. On her birth certificate her fathers name is Edward Ettridge, a Hearth Rug Maker, and her mother is Sarah Ettridge (formerly Higgins). Her first son, Charles John, was born before her marriage to her first cousin, when she was 15.
   
Children of CHARLES ETTRIDGE and ELIZA ETTRIDGE are:
   i.   CHARLES JOHN5 ETTRIDGE, b. 16 Jun 1872, Shoreditch, Middlesex, Shoreditch, Haggerston.).
   ii.   AMELIA CLARA. ETTRIDGE, b. 14 Feb 1874, Shoreditch (Haggerstone West Shoreditch, Haggerstone
   iii.   MARY A. ETTRIDGE, b. Jun 1875, Shoreditch
   iv.   ELIZA S. ETTRIDGE, b. Jul 1876, Shoreditch
   v.   EDWARD J. ETTRIDGE, b. 19 Mar 1880, Whitechapel, Mile End New Town
   vi.   ADA ETHRIDGE, b. 20 Oct 1883, Mile End Old Town, London
   vii.   CHARLOTTE ETTRIDGE, b. 1884, Mile End Old Town, London
   viii.   JOHN ETTRIDGE, b. 1887, Mile End Old Town, London
   ix.   ALBERT ETHRIDGE, b. 1891, Bethnal Green
   x.   ROSE ETHRIDGE, b. 1894, Mile End New Town

Hope this is of interest - perhaps 'Aulus' will be able to tell me how we are related?

Robert
 
 

[dawnsh]

Hi Robert

Welcome to Rootschat 

I've sent Aulus a message letting them know you have made this post.

Fingers crossed, they'll get back to you soon.

Dawn

[bertee]

Hello Robert

My great-grandfather is:

EDWARD J. ETTRIDGE, b. 19 Mar 1880, Whitechapel, Mile End New Town

so I'd be interested in any info you have.

I haven't done any research in ages, so I can't remember what I have that would be of help to you, but I'll have a look to see how far it goes back.  It sounds like you have a lot more than me.

Rob

[dawnsh]

Hi bertee

Welcome to Rootschat too 

Until each of you has made 3 posts you won't be able to use the personal message sysyem to exchange information which may be of a personal or sensitive nature.

In the meantime please do not post details of personal email addresses which is one of Rootschat policies.

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Dawn

[Aulus]

Thanks for the heads-up, Dawn.

Hello Robert and Rob.  Welcome to Rootschat.  And thanks for getting in touch.

The Thomas Ettridge born 26 April 1817 is my great x3 great-uncle.

I descend from his brother, my great x3 grandfather, William Ettridge (5 Aug 1824-8 Jul 1922) and then by his daughter, Caroline Ettridge (born 26 Apr 1864), who married Hezekiah Guest (9 Jan 1864-16 Mar 1956) on 30th November 1885 at St Peter's Bethnal Green.

I've got Thomas Ettridge's parents as Thomas Ettridge (baptised Holborn St Andrew's 7 Nov 1796) and Rebecca Edwards (b. c. 1796, m. 15 Apr 1811 at St Leonard's Shoreditch).
They had 11 children:
Lydia (12 May 1812)
James (1 Aug 1813
Elizabeth (13 Nov 1814)
Mary (6 Mar 1816)
Thomas (26 Apr 1817)
Eliza (18 Dec 1818)
Elisabeth (c. 1821 - or is this the same as the 1818 Eliza?)
William (5 Aug 1824)
Rebecca (c.1826)
Mary Ann (2 Apr 1827)
Edward (3 Oct 1829)

Going back beyond the 1796 Thomas Ettridge is less certain, though his baptism on the IGI gives his parents as Thomas & Susanna Etridge.
The IGI has a marriage of a Thomas Etheridge to Susannah Jones 2 Sep 1790 in Goodrich, Herefordshire.  This is the only marriage of  Thomas Ettridge & Susanna between 1754 and 1794 currently on the IGI.  But it needs further research to check if this might be the right Thomas & Susannah.

I hadn't got Thomas' death, not the 1861 census (though I've got them on the 1851, also at 35 Reform Place) there are a few details I've missed, so thanks for those.  But we should take this offline - not least as in-depth discussion will be tedious for non-relations!

As Dawn says, you'll need to make a few more posts before you can use the private message function so we can exchange details to share further information - you could just add a few replies to this thread, I suppose, though that'd be "cheating the system"!  I'll see if I can send you a PM with my email address.

[Aulus]

Hope this is of interest - perhaps 'Aulus' will be able to tell me how we are related?

By my calculations, we're 5th cousins. 

[Robot789]

Hi.

Thanks for the quick reply.

At a quick glance it looks as if you have hit the same 'brick wall' that I have.

It would be great to have contact over this. Are you a member of The East of London FHS? or the Society of Genealogists? We may be able to make contact that way.

Rob

[Aulus]

1.  THOMAS3 ETRIDGE  was born 26 Apr 1817 in Shoreditch  and died 22 May 1884 in Haggerston.  He married ELIZABETH BROOKS 11 Apr 1841 in St John the Baptist, Hoxton, daughter of GEORGE BROOKS and ANN ?.  

Sorry I can't connect to my email just at the moment, so will have to reply here and hope you see it, Robert.

Edit: now sent you an email, but will fill in the details here for other passing Ettridges ...

I've been looking at the London parish records now available on Ancestry and came across this baptism at Lambeth St Mary's:
October 14 1821, Elizabeth Martha daughter of George & Elizabeth Durance (at a pinch it could say Susana, but I'm pretty sure it's Durance) Brook, Residence: St Mary Newington, Quality/Trade/Profession: Brush Maker.

On the same page, there's a William Brook baptised the same day to the same parents.

The Newington residence fits with the 1861 census, and George's occupation matches that on the marriage record.  What do you think?

I've not been able to find the Shoreditch St Leonard baptism to which you refer, unfortunately.  What's George's occupation on that?

There's a marriage at Lambeth St Mary's of a George Brook and Elizabeth Durance Husband on 4th October 1818.

The clincher for me is a second marriage of Elizabeth Durance Brook to a Thomas Nicholl at St Mark’s Shoreditch 9 Feb 1857.  One of the witnesses at that wedding is Elizabeth Ettrige. 

[Robot789]

Hello Robert

My great-grandfather is:

EDWARD J. ETTRIDGE, b. 19 Mar 1880, Whitechapel, Mile End New Town

so I'd be interested in any info you have.

I haven't done any research in ages, so I can't remember what I have that would be of help to you, but I'll have a look to see how far it goes back. It sounds like you have a lot more than me.

Rob

The grandfather of Edward J. Ettridge (1880) was my 2nd great grandfather. Edward J. Ettridge was the great grandson of Thomas Etridge, born about 1796, which is as far back as I have gone with any certainty. We may need to communicate outside of Rootschat if you would like more information (I do have quite a lot). If you are a member of the Society of Genealogists they may agree to forward a letter.

Robert Ettridge