Look up assisted passenger list Victoria 1855

[majm]

I am becoming confused, trying to follow this thread...

Either I have forgotten historical facts, or something is wrong somewheres.... 

  1 July 1851 is surely the date for the commencement of Victoria as a separate colony, hived off from N.S. Wales .....


Some other confusions for me ....

  Americans, and any person coming to mainland Australia could have reached any port by ship, the ships were not restricted to all arriving at the one port.  Afterall, NSW was no longer a penal colony and transportation of convicts to NSW had effectively ceased in 1840.   

Ships brought passengers to various ports around the coast and of course to several ports in Tasmania too.

  NSW State Records Office has fantastic images of passenger lists free to search ONLINE  .... and they definitely include free settlers into what is now Qld and Victoria     May I quote from NSW SRO's intro re that project ....

"This is part of a pilot project to digitise the following passenger lists: the microfilm copies of the List of Irish passengers arrived on the ship Sir Joseph Banks, Oct 1828 (NRS 5309); Persons on early migrant ships, 1828-32 (NRS 5310); Persons on early migrant ships, May 1832- Jan 1833 (NRS 5311); Women on the Red Rover and other early migrant ships, 1832 (NRS 5312); Persons on government ships, Aug 1837-40 (NRS 5313); Persons on bounty ships (Agent's Immigrant Lists), 1838-96 (NRS 5316); Persons on bounty ships arriving at Port Phillip, 1839-51 (NRS 5318); Germans on bounty ships, 1849-52 (NRS 5320); Members of the Family Colonization Loan Society, 1854-57 (NRS 5322) and Passenger lists of the Family Colonization Loan Society, 1854-55 (NRS 5323)."

     Here's the link to the resource at NSW SRO

http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/nrs-lists/nrs-5316


Where you don't know the ship of arrival then perhaps it is best to first look that up via the keyword option under the passenger's surname .....
 http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/keyname.aspx

How could an American get to Melbourne in 1855?   Via NSW, perhaps.  He could also be one of the possibly thousands of migrants, who arrived having paid their own fares prior to 1852.  Victoria has Assisted Migration lists for 1839 to 1871, (Index to Assisted British Immigration 1839-1871 ) and Unassisted migrants from 1852. Victoria was established as a self-governing colony in 1850.   

NSW has Assisted migration lists to Port Phillip (Port Phillip, 1839-51 ). However, free settlers were not recorded, or records are not available, without intensive searching of ships’  lists.   

Fingers crossed this helps     

Adding :  Oops I overlooked another link with passenger (and crew) lists .... again, it is an ongoing project, and it is of course looking for volunteers  but the transcriptions are backed up with scans from NSW SRO reels 

http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/

Cheers,  JM

[Broad ford]

I would like to record my debt to all of the sites you have cited.  However, you point to the greatest problem of the present state of affairs.  The task is so gigantic that it is unfinished and ongoing and there is the assumption that present, completed records are complete. I can only deal with my experience, and I have come across dozens of records ( births deaths and marriages ), where records are not there and the reason I have been given is that "many records were lost" or, in the case of some Catholic records, the members of the Church " were too poor".  Not sure that I believe this completely, but there is no doubt that records were lost, as Church officials travelled to Melbourne and experienced either extremely poor weather conditions or were waylaid. In some cases, people were located in such remote parts of this State, that official registration may not have been available, and religious representation may not have been regularly present.

As far as the creation of Victoria was concerned, I will let you decide which date you want to choose :
In 1850 the United Kingdom Parliament passed An Act for the better Government of Her Majesty's Australian Colonies. It allowed South Australia, Tasmania and Victoria to separate from New South Wales.
Under the new law, Victoria separated on 1 July 1851
The first Legislative Council met on 11 November 1851.
In 1854 the Council passed a bill setting up Victoria's Constitution,
The bill needed Queen Victoria's assent to become law. She assented to it on 16 July 1855. The changes took effect from 23 November 1855, the start of responsible self-government in Victoria.
http://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/publications/fact-sheets/2333-fact-sheet-i1-victorias-parliamentary-history
Thanks for your concern.

[Neil Todd]

Oh, Neil

[Broad ford]

re Nathaniel Alward
Please look at 1880 American Census.  Nathaniel P Alward born NY aged 49, living with wife, Maria, born Ireland 1836, living Vernon, Blue Earth, Minnesotta, with nine children.  First two born Australia.  Arrived Minnesotta by birth of third child in 1862.   No clear reference to Victoria.

[majm]

re Nathaniel Alward
Please look at 1880 American Census.  Nathaniel P Alward born NY aged 49, living with wife, Maria, born Ireland 1836, living Vernon, Blue Earth, Minnesotta, with nine children.  First two born Australia.  Arrived Minnesotta by birth of third child in 1862.   No clear reference to Victoria.

Here's the link to that information

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MZ9M-3Y9

so 1880 info has Maria L ALWARD aged 24 and Ellen ALWARD aged 21, born in Australia.

Cheers,  JM

[cando]

Are we sure if Gwenn002 is actually searching for this information about Nathaniel P ALWARD and his wife Maria KEATING.   If she is then the BALGANUITH passengers would be of NO interest to her at all.  I mentioned this in an earlier reply.

Nathaniel [farmer] was living with his mother on the 1850 US Census and was back in the US for the 1860 census with wife Maria 24 years b. Ireland and children Louisa 4 and Ellen 2 born Australia with his mother and sister. Nathanial's occupation merchant on the 1860 census.  He was a shopkeeper in Victoria in 1855.

Victorian Electoral Roll 1856
District Talbot  Sub district Mount Franklin
ALWARD Nathaniel  ?Sailors Creek  Eligibility Miner's right.

I will post the information if Gwenn02 wants or needs it.

I suggest that we refrain from posting until Gwenn02 has a chance to respond.

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Cheers
Cando