bankruptcy records

[Roger The Hat]

I don't want to hijack the thread, but "The London Gazette" gave me added information on Mrs. Hat's Annison and Bubbings lines, so I just want to thank Youngtug for the link.

Thanks.

I'm done.

'Hat.

[DudleyWinchurch]

Same here.

thanks youngtug, I've found all sorts of useful things but what might be relevant to the original thread is that I didn't find the bankruptcy I started searching for.

Is it possible that, during the depression of the 1930s, there were just too many bankruptcies to advertise them all.  Or was there possibly an alternative system in place at the time?

Oddly, I found the right name, in roughly the right location, with the right occupation ... only it was about sixty years too early!

[youngtug]

hi. did you check the date at the top of the page of the gazette, John.

[celia]

Vesuvia
A P.M is mainly for exchanging email addresses so for instance when i have lots of bits of information I have snapped from the 19c papers or others.I need the members email address so i send them.Plus any photos I have taken for others,and as said if you need to contact another person privately for a quick chat.P.M are not suitable for much else.I P.M them and they send me there address .

Celia     

I am so sorry, what is a PM

you sent me one,remember

[celia]

youngtug
I checked the gazette I can verify nothing to be found

Celia

[DudleyWinchurch]

hi. did you check the date at the top of the page of the gazette, John.

Hi John,

yes, I checked and the date at the top of the page was 1869 and agreed with  both the date in the publication notice itself and the reported date of publication of that edition of the Gazette.  I was looking for something in the 1930s but don't have an accurate date.

Sheila

[youngtug]

hi. a bankruptcy should be in the gazette, maybe it would be a business name. You could look here  http://newspapers.bl.uk/blcs/     for a local paper but it is not free. John.

[DudleyWinchurch]

Thanks for the advice.  I'm still failing to find it but I may have missed something so will keep trying.

In the 1930s, would someone trading under anything other than their own name not have needed to be registered under the Companies Act?  I don't know when that came in.

[akanex2]

Just because a business has a name doesn't mean that it is a company (incorporated under the Companies Act), but unless it was incorporated the name of the proprietor would be advertised in the Gazette (London, Edinburgh or Belfast) when it became legally insolvent.  If it was incorporated, then the name of the Company would be advertised in the Gazette.  Could the business have been a company registered in another part of the UK (outside England & Wales) and therefore be advertised in either the Belfast or Edinburgh Gazettes?

As far as I am aware the legal requirement to advertised all formal insolvencies in the appropriate Gazette has never been suspended and Companies legislation certainly predates the 1930s - the first Companies Act was introduced in 1862 and the relevant version in force in the 1930s was passed in 1928.  The original Bankruptcy Act was passed in 1883 and the 1914 Act which replaced it remained in force until 1986.

The most likely case would be that while the business failed, no formal insolvency proceeding were brought - it just closed.  Maybe the creditors of the business were satisfied that no further money would be forthcoming and so were not prepared to incur the further costs of taking the matter to court.  If that's the case, no advertising would take place.