oh gosh, you lot are so quick replying, i expected to wait days, so thank you for taking an interest.
yes the tree on ancestry is mine and we have the other foulcer siblings pretty much wrapped up.
we have the birth certs for william and roses children and marriage certs for roses siblings.
the 1911 says they have been married 15 years, had 8 children, 7 alive (+2 born after census)
the birthdate for rose is exact as are the childrens, so i am supposing that williams is as well
as there are several williams from liverpool/london i need the marriage to track him down.
The only other clue we have is that rose caroline died in 1936 and it was rumoured that william married again and lost contact with his family from there, i have him on the electoral rolls 1911 up until 1939 and he remained in the same house all the time, but after the war there is no trace of him, we know that half of the park road he lived in was destroyed by ww2 bombing and the electoral rolls confirm that the houses no longer exist.
on his youngest sons enlistment papers, he state william as his father and next of kin, this was 1941 but it says william lives in edmonton, i have checked the rolls but no trace there before or after the war and i have not been able to determine a death entry - we do know for certain that he survived the war and worked in the woolwich arsenal.