Thomas Bell of county Kildare

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Hercules’ wife was called Jane McNeill, and her daughter (and sister to our John b. 1693) was Anne b. 1695, who married another McNeill, probably a cousin. Her son Roger lived at New Grove in 1759 after her death in 1758, an old manor house which is probably built on the site of the original manor house of Drumbrackley, where George Montgomery built his house after the manor of Drumbrackley was granted to him by his older brother the 2nd Viscount Montgomery of the Great Ardes in 1639. Ballycairn The name of the townland is recorded as Balle-Carne al. Drumbrackley in 1623. The alias name Drumbrackley appears to derive from Irish Droim Breaclaigh ‘ridge of the speckled place’. There is a rath on a low hill overlooking the Lagan at New Grove in the north-west of the townland. http://www.placenamesni.org/resultdetails.php?entry=10820 .

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-M781-1?i=116&cat=185720

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Hercules’ wife was called Jane McNeill, and her daughter (and sister to our John b. 1693) was Anne b. 1695, who married another McNeill, probably a cousin. Her son Roger lived at New Grove in 1759 after her death in 1758, an old manor house which is probably built on the site of the original manor house of Drumbrackley, where George Montgomery built his house after the manor of Drumbrackley was granted to him by his older brother the 2nd Viscount Montgomery of the Great Ardes in 1639. Ballycairn The name of the townland is recorded as Balle-Carne al. Drumbrackley in 1623. The alias name Drumbrackley appears to derive from Irish Droim Breaclaigh ‘ridge of the speckled place’. There is a rath on a low hill overlooking the Lagan at New Grove in the north-west of the townland. http://www.placenamesni.org/resultdetails.php?entry=10820 .

so was her mother Ann McNeill nee Montgomery?

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I don't know who Jane McNeil's mother was. Ann McNeill was Hercules and Jane's daughter. She was Ann Montgomery and she married a McNeill, probably a cousin on her mother's side of the family.

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New Grove house, the ancestral manor, is advertised here: https://search.savills.com/property-detail/gbbfrdduc180230

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-M781-1?i=116&cat=185720

I can't log into this, sorry. Can you post a picture please?
Thanks

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I don't know who Jane McNeil's mother was. Ann McNeill was Hercules and Jane's daughter. She was Ann Montgomery and she married a McNeill, probably a cousin on her mother's side of the family.

Hercules Montgomery of Sheepland married Jane McNeil, dau of Archibald, Chancellor of Down Cathedral.... it was Jane's mother I was asking about


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It certainly looks like Jane McNeil, dau of Archibald, Chancellor of Down Cathedral that her mother was also a Montgomery... which is about normal   


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-C9X6-L?i=323&cat=185720

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These are interesting. I think they relate to Ann McNeill, daughter of Hercules and Jane, and her son Roger. I can't see any reference to Jane's mother being a Montgomery though?