dissapearing children

[rastajill]

looking for mirek kettle born 1847 congleton cheshire father ralph mother racheal got birth certificate the totally dissapears got entire chatroom baffled lastnight been looking for six months any suggetions

[Manchester Rambler]

Was it Mirek or Ralph who was born 1847?

I can see a Ralph KETTLE born c1847 Burslem, Staffs, living in Congleton with wife Rachel:

1891:
RG12/2844; Folio 75; Page 24
24 & 26 (?)Racks, Congleton
Ralph KETTLE - Head - 44 - Fishmonger - Burslem, Staffs
Rachel KETTLE - Wife - 43 - Langley, Macclesfield
Thomas KETTLE - Son - 16 - Gen Lab - Congleton
Ralph KETTLE - Son - 14 - Gen Lab - Congleton
Herbert KETTLE - Son - 6 - Congleton

I've never heard of Mirek as an English name! 

Rambler

[Manchester Rambler]

OK, I've found the birth now!

Births Mar 1876   
KETTLE   Mirek        
Congleton 8a 310

As you say, he's not with Ralph and Rachael in 1881.

[kathb]

rastajill,
I found the following
There may be a link?
 All born Biddulph
Cromwell Street Biddulph Bradley Green St Laurence
Ref: RG11/3535/Folio 132 Page 13 1881 census
James Bailey Head Mar 48 Coal Miner
Hannah Kettle (does not state wife) Mar 39
Eliza Daugh 14 at home
James Son 12 Scholar
Rachael dau 7 Scholar
Merric son 5 Scholar
William son 1

Also on the 1881 could this Thomas be a sibling?
4  Rocks Congleton, Congleton North, St Stephens
Ref: RG11; Piece: 3533; Folio: 87; Page: 28
William Sant Head Mar 78  Farm Labourer born Sproston, Cheshire
Martha Sant wife Mar 77 born Gawsworth
Thomas Kettle Grandson 6 born Congleton

I have had no luck finding Merric/Mirek on any later census data as yet
Hope some of this helps
Regards
Kathb

[scotmum]

Manchester, I was looking at the same free bmd entry whilst in chatroom....when you view original scan....it does not include a Mirek Kettle.

[fishweb]

1901 RG13/3594 F38 P17
Leigh Lancaster

5 ?egan Road

Hannah Kettle age 60 widow living on own means b Bradley Green Staffs
Myrick     "     son   single age 23 coal miner hewer
Miles Herbert  son  single age  14     "
Priscilla Wood granddaughter age 14 cotton weaver?

all born in Bradley Green Staffordshire

Cathy

[JDGen]

The following children are registered in Congleton during the correct timetable for Ralph and Rachel (from www.cheshirebmd.org.uk):

Ann 1869 Congleton CON/36/20
Isaac 1871 Congleton CON/39/60
Henry 1872 Congleton CON/39/80 - death registered OND 1872 Congleton
Rachel 1873 Congleton CON/42/61
Thomas 1874 Congleton CON/44/33
Mirek 1876 Congleton CON/45/83
Ralph 1877 Congleton CON/48/32
William 1879 Congleton CON/51/1
Herbert 1885 Congleton CON/57/96

If Mirek was the son of Ralph and Rachel then they all could be - and Rachel, Mirek and William are missing in 1881.

With James BAYLEY and Hannah KETTLE are a Rachel, Merric and William who match the ages.

Jean

PS.  Congleton Registration district covered Biddulph in  Staffordshire until 1893.

[JDGen]

1891 - RG12 3087/21A Page 37, West Leigh, Lancashire:

Hannah KETTLE, Head, Widow, 44, born Staffordshire Biddulph
James KETTLE, Son, S, 21, Coal Miner - ditto
Merric KETTLE, Son, S, 15, Coal Miner – ditto
William KETTLE, Son, S, 11 born –ditto
Myles H KETTLE, Son, 4 born –ditto

Jean

[scotmum]

rasta,

You already knew bally had found him on 1881 - bally has now found Mirek on the 1891 at ancestry...mistranscribed as Marrie.......has another younger sibling by then too, Myles, so matches with the 1901 post above (oops, and someone just posted before me re 1891 too).