parish records lookup please

[lushbrown]

If anyone has access to parish records for Kirkham and Medlor please could they help.There are two Thomas Lingards on the censuses both born about 1836/38.One is born at Medlor and the other at Kirkham.
Both have fathers called John.
Ihave been unable to find a birth for either on the IGI and am trying to separate the two out on a family tree so need their baptism/birth details.
Many thanks for any help.
Elaine

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

I've found two birth records for Thomas LINGART in Fylde, the registration district for Medlar-with-Wesham and Kirkham,

Thomas LINGART    Mar Q 1838    Fylde    21  377

Thomas LINGART    Dec Q 1839    Fylde    21  369


Do these help?


Regards
Daisy

[lushbrown]

Yes,they do help very much,many thanks.

[Galium]

Lancashire BMD

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

shows mother's maiden names for these two births:

WILKINSON for the 1838 birth
BROWNE     for the 1839 birth

[lushbrown]

Many thanks ,will do a bit more investigating now,thats a bit more to go on.

[Daisypetal]

Using the site given by Galium you can also find an Ambrose, Nanny and Miles with mmn WILKINSON, so I think this looks like the family in 1841 and 1851,


1841  HO107/496/6  f.8  p.9  Kirkham
Greenhalgh with Thistleton

LINGERT
John        35    Cotton Weaver
Mary       35
William    10
James      8
Thomas    3
Ambrose    7months      all born in County


1851  HO107/2269  f.90  p.2  Greenalgh With Thistleton

LINGARD
John        Head    49    Ag Lab                     Lancashire Greenhalgh
Mary        Wife    49    Hand Loom Weaver         "             "   
Thomas     Son    13    Farmers Serv                 "           Medlar
Ambrose    Son     9    Scholar                          "           Esprick
Nanny      Daur     5       "                                "             "
Miles        Son      2                                        "             "



The later Thomas seems to be the son of William and Nancy, as the later children also have mmn BROWN/E.


1841  HO107/496/14  f.16  p.1  Kirkham
Roseacre

LINGARD
William     40    Labourer   
Nancy     35 
Ellen       15 
John       10 
Isabella    8 
William     6 
Thomas    1          All born in County


1851  HO107/2269  f.124  p.3  Treales, Roseacre, and Wharles

LINGARD
William    Head    5?    Ag Lab       Lancs Esprick
Nancy     Wife    49    Labr Wife      "      Treals
Thomas    Son    11    Ag Lab          "      Rosacre
Nancy     Daur     7    Scholar         "          "
Jane       Daur     5        "                "          "
Ellen MATTHERS    Daur    M    25    wif William MATTHERS employed    Lancs Rosacre
                                                    as a cowman at Myerscough
George    "  Grandson    4m                                                             Lancs Myerscough


Which census do you have with two Thomas's with fathers John?


Daisy

[cornish milly]

I hope this doesn't confuse! 1841 census John SWIGART 1791 (should be lingard) with children, ellen, john, william, alice and thomas (1832/6) and 1881, the son William (57) is a rush manufacturer the same as his late father John.  John's wife must have died before 1841 as she does not appear on any census. 
The other branch is John Lingard 1803 marries Mary Wilkinson 1851 census which you rightly have from Greenhalgh. 
On the 3 marriage certs for son Thomas Lingard it does state that his father John is deceased, but to tie this up a baptism or birth , or mother's name would help!

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

I hope you don't mind but I'm ust linking this to your earlier thread which gives some more info,

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,330561.msg2114944.html#msg2114944

Daisy

[lushbrown]

Thanks Daisy,Iam working on this with Cornish Milly and my computor was down last night,thanks for all your help.