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Re: GRO Certificates by email
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 17 September 09 17:54 BST (UK) »
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I cannot forsee that ever happening,mainly because when you apply for a cert in person you have to fill in and sign a form my hand and answear specific questions.Last time i went for one locally i was asked for a middle name of granddad.It took me ages to remember it,because i wasn't expecting that question ;D

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Re: GRO Certificates by email
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 17 September 09 22:06 BST (UK) »
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Last time i went for one locally i was asked for a middle name of granddad.


 That's interesting, Celia. I've never had the opportunity to go to the local registers because I'd left town before getting into this.

 How is it then, that they give ye the third degree, whist we can just spout references to GRO and get what ever we ask for  ???
 
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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 17 September 09 22:16 BST (UK) »
Sounds like you must have a bit of a "jobsworth" there Celia.

The local office that I have used most told me not to bother with forms but just write a letter telling them what I know.  They have even phoned me up before to check they had found the right cert. and sent one application on to another office after checking first that the other office had the correct one.  They are very quick (usually less than a week at the standard charge) and have been helpful in answering extra questions when I was unsure of what the information on the cert. signified.
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Re: GRO Certificates by email
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 17 September 09 22:25 BST (UK) »
I've been affected by the postal strike, so I'm interested in this topic. I think it would be good to be given the choice, so people who need an actual real certificate can still get it, but those of us who don't mind an email attachment could opt for that way.



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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 17 September 09 22:43 BST (UK) »
Slightly off topic, but does anyone know, when a Certified Copy is received, and the details are hand written, is it just a copy of the Register entry? I'm wondering because the handwriting all looks so similar, yet when the Register is signed surely there should be a difference in the style of the signatures?
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« Reply #14 on: Friday 18 September 09 00:45 BST (UK) »
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How is it then, that they give ye the third degree, whist we can just spout references to GRO and get what ever we ask for 
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That visited was a few years ago,but the same thing happened when mum died4 years ago age 93.The solicitor was to sell her house and mum had told me years ago she asked Gran to put the house in her name before she would move in to look after her.Or she would be homeless,Gran was going to leave everything to the cats home ;D It turned out mum never registered the house in her name.I had to get Gran's death cert for the court to prove she was deceased. I just asked the registrar for it.Didn't have a ref or nout else just the year of death.I did get the cert,but now i know how a suspect feels when they get interviewed ;D ;D

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« Reply #15 on: Friday 18 September 09 01:06 BST (UK) »
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but does anyone know, when a Certified Copy is received, and the details are hand written, is it just a copy of the Register entry?
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Yes it is,the real cert looks totally different and is scanned.
Most are written in ink.I don't buy cert now but a few years ago i sent for a marriage cert a copied, copy, so i could move on up.I never moved up i got stuck.there were things i couldn't find and didn't make sense. After a couple of years I got some help.It turned out the person who had coppied from the original had mistranscibed the surname of g.Grandma.After that i sent for scanned ones.Harder to read but I wouldn't risk another mistranscription, would you?

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Re: GRO Certificates by email
« Reply #16 on: Friday 18 September 09 07:56 BST (UK) »
Slightly off topic, but does anyone know, when a Certified Copy is received, and the details are hand written, is it just a copy of the Register entry? I'm wondering because the handwriting all looks so similar, yet when the Register is signed surely there should be a difference in the style of the signatures?
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No, you're bang on topic here.

AsI understand it, the only certificates we can purchase in/from England & Wales are legally required to be a certified copy, that's why no email versions are available (like an Irish research cert, for instance, which is just a photocopy of the register entry).

Depending on where you get it from (and sometimes, I think the condition of the original entry) this can/will be a typed or hand-written transcription of the entry in the register.  When I apply to the local registrar, more often than not, for a marriage entry, I get a photocopy of the original entry that has been scanned onto a modern certificate form and then, like the transcribed copies, it is certified (as a true copy of the entry in the register).

The central registers are only a copy of these original registers so the transcription maybe the third copy made.

The transcriptions may have errors at each stage, as may the original register, so none can be guaranteed to be error free.  I presume that there is some sort of cross-check to the certification process but I could be wrong.
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Re: GRO Certificates by email
« Reply #17 on: Friday 18 September 09 09:59 BST (UK) »
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