Death in Leeds 1840s -evolved into 'which Atkinson is which!!"

[Barbara.H]

Oh Dee, thank you so much - it does seem to be the one of the commonest names in Leeds!  Even eliminating one or two would be a help.  I really appreciate the time you're taking.

It's choose-a-school season for those of us with 10/11 year olds, so I'll be out for a while, panicking at a high school Open Evening    So take your time with this, there's no rush.  I'll check back with you later

  Barbara

[dee melody]

Barbara, have you ever found Ann on the 1841 Census?  Are we searching in the Leeds area?  Do you know her Mother's name?  I've also checked all the John's in Leeds - the closest being: (don't put too much faith in this) Assuming he had not died before the Census night.

1841
HO107 / 1346 / 10-46 / 20
Myrtle Street, Leeds
John Atkinson / Head / 65 / Cloth Draper?
Ann / dau / 14

I have not listed the whole family - it's just so you can have a look at this entry.  I'm off to check some other sources.

I'll stick to Genealogy - hope you had an enlightening evening!!!!

Not sure if you are aware of this website as well:

http://www.yorkshirebmd.info/ 

Dee

[dee melody]

Hello Barbara.  Here's where I'm at:  I have searched all John Atkinson's/Tailor on 1841 Census in Leeds with a daughter Ann.  They are both listed above.  Without knowing Ann's mother's name or if she had any siblings, I don't know where else to look.  I wonder if John died before the 1841 Census?  I have had a look at website YorkshieBMD and there are 2 deaths in 1847 & 1848. I wonder if you contacted them and asked them to check both deaths to see if one of them was a Tailor.  I don't know if they would ask for money!!!  I rechecked the Leeds Burials Disc.  There are 2 Burials (1847 & 1848) at Beckett DStreet Cemetery - but they do not give the age of the men - I was trying to narrow it down a bit!!  Do you get the feeling that I'm 'clutching at straws' here?
I look forward to your comments.  Hope the evening went well.

Dee

[Barbara.H]

Thanks again for all your time & effort Dee,
it does feel like clutching at straws doesn't it!  But at least we've discounted the chap from Sand Hutton, which has stopped me chasing the wrong people.. sigh. 
I probably ought to go back to the other details on Ann's marriage cert, which really is all I have to go on - father John, tailor; her address at marriage, Nether Green; witness names W H Ripley and Sarah Gill.  I've looked up Nether Green on the 1851 census, but couldn't see anything that made a connection.  I don't suppose the Burial Disc has addresses for the two Johns does it?

I quite like the the cloth draper in Myrtle St though - if Ann's husband was an upholsterer, he must have bought his cloth from somewhere. Might be how they met!

I'll keep on thinking; big thanks once again  despite no definite answers, its been very helpful & I feel I know Leeds a bit better now

  Barbara

[dee melody]

Barbara, have a look at this and tell me what you think.  It MIGHT be relative to my reply no. 10

This is the web site:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Leeds/Leeds29Dry.html

Woollen Cloth Manufrs,

•Akeroyd Abraham
•Appleby Benjamin
• Atkinson John
•Austin Thomas
•Booth James

Tailors,
Marked thus * are also Drapers.

I've only highlighted these few, its a huge document.  What I'm trying to say is maybe the Draper chap could be a possibility.  I do not want to send you off in the wrong direction.

No addresses on Burial Disc.

Dee

[Barbara.H]

Oh Dee that is interesting.. following on from that I found this on the 1851:

1851
HO107/2320/416

47 Myrtle St
Mary Ann Atkinson, head, 47, unmarried, dressmaker
Ann Atkinson, Ille. Dau, 24, unmarried, dressmaker

there's also an Elizabeth Atkinson aged 8, lodging with the Wilson family at no 52 Myrtle St! 

If this is my Ann, maybe John was her grandfather, not her father, and she's used his details on the marriage cert.
Next question - was Myrtle St near Nether Green, where my Ann was living in 1853?

  Barbara

[dee melody]

Hello Barbara, have just got in from picking hubby up from airport - as it's late and my eyes are tired, I will check the street map plan in the morning and let you know.  Looks interesting doesn't it. 
Dee
 

[libby9]

Hi Barbara,

I've been following this thread with interest as I helped you on your other post - looking for William Brownridge and Ann Atkinson in 1851.

If you don't know of this site I think you'll find it both interesting and useful. 

http://www.leodis.net/searchResults.aspx?LOCID=0&DECADE=0&YEAR=&KEYWORDS=nether%20green&KEYWORDS2=&KEYWORDS3=&ANDOR2=&ANDOR3=&RECSPAGE=5&VIEW=1&CURRPAGE=1

Good luck with your search.

[libby9]

Hi Barbara and Dee,

I'm sorry to put a damper on things............ but, I've looked at the 1841 census return and John Atkinson was a cloth DRESSER, not draper (or so it looks to me)  In old style handwriting where there's double 'S's', the first 'S's' were written long rather like small case 'F's' are written today.  A cloth dresser cut cloth, he wasn't a tailor.

Not trying to spoil things, honest, I want you to follow the right folks.