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Death in Leeds 1840s -evolved into 'which Atkinson is which!!"
« on: Wednesday 16 September 09 10:31 BST (UK) »
I'm looking for a death for John Atkinson, tailor, probably in the 1840s.

On the 1841 census he is at Grove St, Leeds Town (HO107/1349/10 enumeration district 32).  Can't see him on the 1851.

If he died in that area of Leeds between 1841 and 1851, which sub-registration district would his death most likely fall in?  I don't know old Leeds geography and there are 16 John Atkinsons to pick from on the bmds!  ???

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 :) Barbara

LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
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Re: Death in Leeds 1840s - which sub-registration district?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 10:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Barbara,

The 1841 census shows the sub registration district as Leeds West

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Re: Death in Leeds 1840s - which sub-registration district?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 11:54 BST (UK) »
Thanks Tati,

That brings the total down to seven! Still, they can't all be tailors surely ... ;D

Barbara
LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
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Re: Death in Leeds 1840s - which sub-registration district?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 12:30 BST (UK) »
Ahem, let's hope so  :P ;D
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Re: Death in Leeds 1840s - which sub-registration district?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 15:53 BST (UK) »
Hello BarbaraH, is it possible this is your gentleman?

1851 Census
HO107 / 2321 / 1114 / 37
66 Grove Street, Leeds

John Atkinson / Head / 36 / Tailor          b. Thirsk?
Jemima / wife / 42                               b. York

1861 Census
RG09 / 3392 / 16 / 25
66 Grove Street , Leeds

John Atkinson / head / 46 / Tailor         b. Leeds
Jemima / wife / 50                              b. Leeds

Possible Marriage
John Atkinson / Jemima Dennis
March 1846 / Leeds
Vol No: 23 / Page No: 328

I have not looked any further in case this is the wrong person.  Although in saying that, what are the odds there are 2 Tailors by the same name?

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Melody: Carrick, Attymass, Ballina, County Mayo
Cassidy:Mayo/Leitrim
Granaghan: Crossmolina, County Mayo
Mullens: Kensington, London

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Re: Death in Leeds 1840s - which sub-registration district?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 16:36 BST (UK) »
BarbaraH, I have had a look further on - it's sad.

1871 Census
RG10 / 4564 / 107 / 21
No 2 Grove Street, Leeds

John Atkinson / Widower / 56 / Tailor / b. SandHutton

Death
Jemma Atkinson / Age 61 / Leeds
Dec 1879
Vol No: 9b / Page No: 362

1881 Census
RG11 / 4524 / 98 / 1
Leeds Union Workhouse, Beckett Street, Leeds

John Atkinson / 66 / Inmate / Tailor - No Occ /  b. SandHutton

Death
John Atkinson / Age 66 / Leeds
Sept 1881
Vol No: 9b / Page No: 224

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Melody: Carrick, Attymass, Ballina, County Mayo
Cassidy:Mayo/Leitrim
Granaghan: Crossmolina, County Mayo
Mullens: Kensington, London

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Re: Death in Leeds 1840s - which sub-registration district?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 17:34 BST (UK) »
Wow thank you Dee, I hadn't seen that one before! That has to be the  same one that's on Grove St in 1841.  What a sad decline he had.

The John Atkinson I'm looking for is father of Ann Atkinson b. around 1830. Ann married  William Thomas Brownridge at St Marks Woodhouse in 1853. She gave 'Nether Green' as address and father's name John Atkinson, tailor.  (I asked for help on Rootschat with the Nether Green address a while ago  
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0747/

The family on Grove St in 1841 looked the best bet for Ann's family as they had a tailor called John and a girl called Ann, but as always, the ages and relationships weren't clear.  Now you've cleared John's age up, at least that bit's certain  :)
IGI has a John Atkinson christening at Sand Hutton 1815 - that makes him a bit young to be Ann's father at 14 or 15, but not impossible I suppose... hum.  Have I got the right family here I wonder?   ???

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LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Death in Leeds 1840s - which sub-registration district?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 17:51 BST (UK) »
Hello Barbara, well, that's blown that one out of the water!!!! :'(

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Melody: Carrick, Attymass, Ballina, County Mayo
Cassidy:Mayo/Leitrim
Granaghan: Crossmolina, County Mayo
Mullens: Kensington, London

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Re: Death in Leeds 1840s - which sub-registration district?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 18:13 BST (UK) »
Barbara, I will go back and re-check for you.  The reason I gave the above gentleman, was because I have a disc of Leeds Burials.  I checked it for a John Atkinson using the above details on your original enquiry. I will have another look for you.  by the way, the above comment is not meant to be offensive.  Obviously there must have been more than 1 Atkinson in Leeds who was a Tailor - isn't it always the way.

Dee
 
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Melody: Carrick, Attymass, Ballina, County Mayo
Cassidy:Mayo/Leitrim
Granaghan: Crossmolina, County Mayo
Mullens: Kensington, London