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HARPER family - CAMPSIE COMPLETED
« on: Wednesday 16 September 09 05:50 BST (UK) »
l was hoping that someone may be able to help with further info on the following family. The details l've been able to put together are as follows.

David HARPER  born Ireland married 20 May 1843 Campsie, Elizabeth FINLAY b.abt 1815 Campsie. (Daughter of Charles FINLAY and Elizabeth MASON).
Children known so far are;-
James Theodore HARPER b. abt 1846 Campsie
William HARPER   b.abt 1844 Campsie
David HARPER    b.abt 1849 Campsie

David, Elizabeth and their sons William and David supposibly immigrated to Canada about 1870?
James Theodore HARPER ended up in Tasmania Australia, first sign of this  is his marriage in 1874.

lt would be great if l could have perhaps any details on births of the above children and perhaps anything on Elizabeth FINLAY and parents.

James Theodore HARPER was suppossibly a "Remittance man", so l'm just wondering if there was anything of this family, and perhaps an incident that James may have been involved in to have him travel to Australia, instead of Canada with the rest of the family.

David HARPER Snr was a bleacher, and his son's bleacher labourers. Anything known on any mill they may have worked at would be an added bonus.

Thanking you in advance for any help.

Skurrie
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Re: HARPER family - CAMPSIE
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 09:59 BST (UK) »
hi Skurrie  :)

the IGI has the following children to david harper and elizabeth finlay(finley)
james harper born 18th april 1846 campsie stirling
david harper baptized 25th march 1849 campsie

this could be david in 1841(freeCEN website)
main street campsie stirlingshire
david harper 25 agricultural labourer born ireland

and elizabeth 1841
main street campsie stirlingshire(all born stirlingshire)
charles finlay 47 coal miner
elizabeth finlay 45
elizabeth finlay 23
ann finlay 20 calico printer
james finlay 15 coal miner
john finlay 7
charles finlay 1
ann masson 1

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Re: HARPER family - CAMPSIE
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 11:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Skurrie

Just following through on the censuses with the info already provided by Ev. This looks to be David and family in 1851 - everyone born in Campsie except David:

David Harper 30, Printwork Singeing (?spl) House Labourer b. Ireland
Elizabeth Harper 33
William Harper 7
James Harper 5
David Harper 2

Address: Whitefield, Campsie

I wonder if this could be a brother of David (similar profession, children's names and living in the same town) - everyone showing as born in Ireland unless indicated:

William Harper 35, calico printer
Mary Harper 36
Alexander Harper 14
Mary Harper 12
David Harper 10
William Harper 8, b. Campsie
Margaret Harper 4, c. Campsie
James Harper 2, b. Campsie

Address: Whitefield, Campsie

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Re: HARPER family - CAMPSIE
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 13:09 BST (UK) »
hi Skurrie  :)

this could be david in 1841(freeCEN website)
main street campsie stirlingshire
david harper 25 agricultural labourer born ireland

and elizabeth 1841
main street campsie stirlingshire(all born stirlingshire)

ev


Hi ev,

Thanks for replying.
 l did come across the 1841 census noting David as an ag lab, but wasn't quite sure it was him, as l had noted that he was a bleacher. On looking at Elizabeth Finlay and her address as being also in Main st, Campsie, there is a strong feeling that they may have been neighbours, met and married. l'm wondering what type of farms were around Campsie at the time, perhaps David worked on the farm and moved on to being a bleacher. l'm assuming at this stage that it may be connected to silk?.
The Harper family was supposed to have a small family business ‘Harper Bros Inc.’, a singeing house which was owned by David and William Harper in 1861.  It is thought that the business was owned by David and his brother William with David’s sons William and James being employed in the family business.

Thank you  for your time and help, and if there is anything else that may come your way to assist me. It would be appreciated.

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Re: HARPER family - CAMPSIE
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 13:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Skurrie

 brother of David (similar profession, children's names and living in the same town) - everyone showing as born in Ireland unless indicated:

William Harper 35, calico printer
Mary Harper 36
 Whitefield, Campsie

Monica


Hi Monica,

Thank you for replying.
The William Harper you found fits in to my research. l had a William marrying a Mary Queery?, with the children noted.
l'm glad that l'm on the right track. There is nothing worst than chasing the wrong family.

Anything else you may come across to assist with the Harper family would be appreciated.

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Re: HARPER family - CAMPSIE
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 13:58 BST (UK) »
William's wife Mary's surname has been written down in a variety of ways from Queedy, Querie etc. Children showing to them in Scotland on IGI:

1. WILLIAM HARPER Christening: 12 SEP 1844 Campsie
2. MARGARET HARPER Christening: 28 NOV 1847 Campsie
3. JAMES HARPER  Christening: 31 MAR 1850 Campsie
4. ALEXANDER HARPERChristening: 13 FEB 1853 Campsie
5. ROBERT HARPER Birth: 11 FEB 1856 Campsie
6. JOHN HUNTER HARPERBirth: 10 AUG 1859 Campsie

Their son David Harper is showing as having married an Annabella Marshall on 26 Feb. 1859 in Campsie.

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Re: HARPER family - CAMPSIE
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 14:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that Monica. It was good to be able to add the marriage of David to Annabella, as l didn't have this.
Confirmation of what research l had is also appreciated.
l'm wondering if at any stage you had come across any possible area of Ireland that may have been mentioned for the Harpers born there. l'm at a loss to going back further to Ireland without a starting point.

Once again, my many thanks.
Skurrie
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Taylor                                      Hereford
Allen / Cox / Kirkham  /Phillips     Berkshire
Kirkham  /  France      Shropshire
Campbell                  Warwick.
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Re: HARPER family - CAMPSIE COMPLETED
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 17:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Skurrie
I am doing some research for a friend of mine who is descended from William Harper and Mary Quisay - It said Query in the IGI but I have elected to use that version as it appears she had a sister with that spelling visiting in 1871 at the time of the census. Afraid I have no idea where in Ireland they originated.
My friend is descended from Alexander b 1853 who married an Alice - havent established her surname yet! I have only really just started on my research. I was interested in what you said about the business the brothers had?
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Re: HARPER family - CAMPSIE COMPLETED
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 22 October 09 20:27 BST (UK) »
I'm working backwards on the William Harper (1844) line, so you might find some of this info useful.  I don't know if this would be David or William's son though, as the previous posters pointed out.  The Canada 1870 migration would seem to fit better with David, but the Christening date might be better with William.  Let me know if you find out other details further back.

"William M. Harper was born in Campsie Glen, Scotland, Aug. 29. 1844.  In 1868 he came to the United States, locating first at Lynn, Mass., where he married Mary Martin Tweed, a native of Glascow, Scotland.  Later, they removed to Toronto, Canada, where they lived for ten years, and in 1880 came to Erie, Pa., where Mr. Harper became connected with the old Stearns Manufacturing Company and later engaged in the insurance business, in which he has ben actively engaged since 1890.  He is still a very active man in his profession.  Mr. and Mrs. Harper were the parents of six children, as follows: William Rae, an instructor in the public schools of New York City; James L., died in Chicago in 1892, but is buried in Erie; David W., the subject of this sketch; Margaret Martin, the wife of Milton Rowley, a manufacturer, lives in Erie; Eva Hay, married Jay D. Cudney, lives at Houston, Tex.; and Ruth D., married Robert Lee Sale, president of the Sale Lithograph Company, Buffalo, N.Y.  Mrs Harper died Feb 15, 1898, at the age of 52 years, and is buried in Erie."

Source: History of Erie County, Pennsylvania