Hi Looking up my family but stuck!!

[katie1630]

Hi Heywood,
 Many thanks for loking at this for me. I have a lead now for 1871 as
Rg no. RG10 pc 4456 F 52 pg 28
joseph St, Bradford
Hartley Alice head BY 1831 born Ireland
Hartley George son 1862 yorks
Hartley Charles son 1864 yorks
Hartley Alice daughter 1867 yorks.

But no sign of George Snr.
Nothing as yet for 1881.


I noticed that in 1881 Alice was declared a widow so I went through the deaths and I think I've found George died in 1874, though he's not mentioned on the 1871 census either.
I'm ordering his death certificate and marriage certificate and Charles birth certificate on Monday.
So hopefully i'll get some new leads from that.
I still can't find anything for Charles in 1881!!

I'll keep looking!

[heywood]

Perhaps in 1881 he was at sea! I have tried all sorts of variations but no sign as you say.
I wish I could find evidence of the other family - they may have emigrated I suppose.

Good luck with the certificates.

[katie1630]

Thank you very much for trying, I really appreciate it. Hopefully the certs will shed a bit of light on things!!

[katie1630]

If Alice came over from Ireland how would I look up her details? Would there be a record of her coming over here? Is that too far fetched?!!
  Thanks   

[heywood]

Hello again,

just looking at that death of George H- 1874. I think he is married to a Zillah Hartley who also dies between 1871 and 1881 censuses so don't think he is your man.

heywood

I am fairly sure there are no records. Best bet would be to get that birth certificate and hopefully we would be able to connect it all. Then take it from there re Alice.

[katie1630]

Charles Edward Hartley born 21/4/1864
Father George Hartley relieving officer
Mother Alice Hartley nee Milligan
89 Joseph Street Bradford.

Marriage of George Hartley and Alice Milligan 18/1/1854
George a policeman, father name John Hartley profession Weaver
Alice a servant, fathers name Benjmin milligan prof. Farmer
Place of residence Horton
in the presence of William Holmes and Chistopher Gibson.
 
I can't find any solid evidence of them anywhere!!!
1871 I have Alice with her children George, Charles and Alice still living in Joseph Street stating that she was born in Ireland.
I'm wondering whether to look up deaths between 1867 (date of last childs birth) and 1871 to see if he comes up there? Would that achieve anything?
 How do I find his birth certificate as the records I look at only go to 1837.
Would there be any way of searchin gher Alice coming over from Ireland?
Sorry to keep pestering you all!!!

[heywood]

Hello Katie,
they were the family I found earlier 

1861 RG9 Piece 3329 Folio 32 pg 13

(just copied this from earlier post so hope it works) If not just shout and I'll post.)

Ireland at that time is really difficult- you need a place to search for.

[katie1630]

Hi thanks for that, I'm struggling to find the link you put up about 1861?

[heywood]

just ignore the RG9 bit and enter the other bits in the boxes on the search form.

Here they are:

136 Grafton Street Horton

George Hartley 30yrs Inspector of Police b Pateley Bridge Yorks
Alice Hartley 30 yrs b Ireland
William Henry Hartley 6 yrs b Bradford
John Milligan Hartley 2 yrs b Bradford

I did look for the boys at the time - it's a bit odd. It will give us something to do