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Offline katherinem

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Re: Hi Looking up my family but stuck!!
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 17 September 09 11:25 BST (UK) »
Hi,

There is a Charles E Hartley born in Bradford (1866), living in Sculcoates on the 1891 census, which I can find on Find My Past (for which I do not have credits), but cannot find the entry on Ancestry ???

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Bladen (Tipton, & Yorks), Teece, Cooke(Coalville), Stott (Staffs), Carr, Armitage, Henrickson, Lisle (Yorks), Pailing, Stott, Leach, Davies (Llanasa), Taylor, McDonald, Garry, Brackenbury, Brand, Rewston
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Re: Hi Looking up my family but stuck!!
« Reply #10 on: Friday 18 September 09 07:15 BST (UK) »
Hi

the Charles visible on FindMyPast is shown on A*y  as Charles E Harkey bn 1856 Bradford Occ Fisherman

Heres the REFs


RG12 3919 folio 5 Pg 3



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Blakeley in Batley West Yorks
Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire
Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks
Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks
Moss in Morley and Leeds
Parker in Morley W Yorks
Parker in Hull E Yorks
Tilburns in Morley W Yorks

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Re: Hi Looking up my family but stuck!!
« Reply #11 on: Friday 18 September 09 09:53 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Well done Wendy, don't know how I missed that!

On the 1891 Charles is lodging with Alice Morriss, born in Bradford in 1868.  There is a marriage in Hull in 1888 between a Alice S Hartley to Edwin Morris.

Have found her on the 1871 census as follows:

89 Joseph Street (RG10/4456, Folio 52, Page 28)

Alice Hartley, Head, Mar, 40, Nurse, Ireland
George   "   , Son, Unm, 9, Scholar, Bradford
Charles " 7                     "         "
Alice        "  , Daug, 4, Bradford

This Charles is slightly older than the entry on 1911, but in 1864 there is a birth in Bradford for a Charles E Hartley.

So possibly it was Charles father that came over from Ireland and changed his name!  It will be interesting to see what the fathers name is on the marriage cert.

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Bladen (Tipton, & Yorks), Teece, Cooke(Coalville), Stott (Staffs), Carr, Armitage, Henrickson, Lisle (Yorks), Pailing, Stott, Leach, Davies (Llanasa), Taylor, McDonald, Garry, Brackenbury, Brand, Rewston
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Re: Hi Looking up my family but stuck!!
« Reply #12 on: Friday 18 September 09 13:17 BST (UK) »
Hi, thanks all for your help!! I had got the details of the Charles born in Bradford etc. and it was the difference in the birth dates that made me wonder! It was my grandfather sister who told my that he came over from Ireland.
 I've ordered the marriage certificate and will post the detals on here when it arrives.
  Thanks once again to everyone who's helped me!!
Sculcoates
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Bradford
Ireland
HARTLEY
GOY
COOKE
WALKER

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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 12 December 09 11:00 GMT (UK) »
See also the new reply re the mariage cert here

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=424532.msg2894716

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Re: Hi Looking up my family but stuck!!
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 12 December 09 11:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi, thanks to the great help I received on here I managed to get hold of a copy of my great grandfathers mariage certificate but I'm still drawing a blank!
It doesn't coincide with the birthdate I've got for him but only by 2 years, and i still can't find a birth certificate for him.
  Also it's given me his fathers name as George Hartley, manufacturer but no other details. How could I use this to find out more about him?
  The 1911 census that I have states my Charles Edward Hartley (my great grandfather) was 44 at the time and born in Bradford.
  Really hoping that someone can shed some light on this for me.. thank you very much!!! 
 
 
 
Sculcoates
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Bradford
Ireland
HARTLEY
GOY
COOKE
WALKER

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« Reply #15 on: Saturday 12 December 09 11:08 GMT (UK) »
Right then Claire  ;D can you tell us exactly what the marriage cert says- names,addresses,ages and jobs,both for the bride and groom and their dad's.
Who were the witnesses ,and what church and date did it take place.
The more info we have the more chance of finding them on the censuses  ;)


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« Reply #16 on: Saturday 12 December 09 11:13 GMT (UK) »
1898 marriage solomnized at Hull in parish of Holy Trinity
January 19th 1898
Groom   Charles Edward Hartley, 28, bachelor, master mariner, Residence- 37 Eton Street
Fathers name george Hartley profession Manufacturer

bride Emmelien Gertrude Goy, 21, no profession, Residence 37 Eton Street
Fathers Name Joseph Goy, Master Tailor.

Witnessed by Joseph Goy and Rebecca Mallett

Sculcoates
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GOY
COOKE
WALKER

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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 12 December 09 12:31 GMT (UK) »
Hello Katie,

when you say you had got the details re Charles E born Bradford, is that on Free BMD, not a birth certificate?
If not, more money sadly, but I think it would be worth getting the certificates for Charles E and Alice S born Bradford to see re the father.

I have found an Alice Milligan married to George Hartley on Free BMD 1854 Bradford.
They are in 1861 census with some boys -George is a Police Inspector ad Alice is born Ireland but then can't find this family again  :(

1861 RG9; Piece: 3329; Folio: 32; Page: 13
am therefore a bit doubtful - it's just a combination of names etc that ties them in.

However, Charles in 1891 (age transcribed wrongly-should be b 1866 not 1856) is linked with Alice (sister?) in 1871 so that seems to be the family.

Alice is here with mother Alice:
1881 RG11; Piece: 4441; Folio: 155; Page: 28

(mother Alice b Bradford).

So- having said all this - am not sure about anything  ::)

Do you have Charles in 1881?

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