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Hi Looking up my family but stuck!!
« on: Tuesday 15 September 09 20:26 BST (UK) »
Hi all,
  I'm looking up my mums side of the family and have only got a far as my great grandfather as, according to family stories, my great great grandfather came over from Ireland to England in the 1880's and changed his name but we have no details of what his name was before!
  He became as master mariner and resided in Bradford with his wife Emeline Goy. His name was changed to Charles Edward Hartley and they has 2 sons Harold and Herbert Hartley. Herbert Hartley-my great grandfather was born in 1900.
  I'm hoping to get advice and information on here that will help and look forward to chatting to some of yous!
  Claire, Northern Ireland
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HARTLEY
GOY
COOKE
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Re: Hi Looking up my family but stuck!!
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 20:58 BST (UK) »
Hi

1911 Censu  Hull Yorkshire       61 West Dock Avenue Hull

Charles Edward Hartley Head Married 14 years age 44 Fishermans Outfitter born Bradford
Emmaline Gertrude Wife age 35 born Billingboro Lincolnshire
Herbert son age 11 Scholar born Hull
Violet Dau age 8 Scholar born Hull
Harold Son age 5 Scholar born Hull
Ethel Goy Sister in Law age 27 Single Domesticated Help born Billingboro Lincs
Rosa Goy Sister in Law age 16 Single born Billingboro Lincs

Marriage March qtr 1898 Hull Yorkshire 9d 304
Charles Edward Hartley
Emmelien Gertrude Goy


What you should do is order their marriage cert to get their fathers names & occupations and then work back from there to see if it leads you to an irish connection

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Re: Hi Looking up my family but stuck!!
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 21:00 BST (UK) »
Wow that's brilliant I'll order that tomorrow!! Thanks so much!
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GOY
COOKE
WALKER

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Re: Hi Looking up my family but stuck!!
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 21:55 BST (UK) »
katie1630,

Definitely follow Claire's advice on the marriage cert, but here is something that might give you a bit to explore while waiting.  There is a large Ancestry tree that purports to include this family (has Emmeline, but not sisters).  States that her parents were Joseph Goy and Emma Glenn.

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=linclinks&id=I059205

My problem is that Emmeline is NOT with this family in 1881, so take with a grain of salt.

Nick
McLellan - Inverness
Greer - Renfrewshire
Manson - Aberdeen & Orkney
Simpson - Hereford, Devon, etc.
Flett - Orkney
Chisholm - Scotland
Wishart - Orkney
Shand - Aberdeen
Pirie - Aberdeen

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Re: Hi Looking up my family but stuck!!
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 22:28 BST (UK) »
Hi.....

 Emmeline can be found in 1881 with Glenn grandparents in Horbling.
 RG11/3196 F 90 PAGE 10 AS Emilean G Goy age 5 so that ties the names together. Here baptism is extracted on IGI as daughter of Joseph & Emma.

 I would go for the cert to check for the fathers name at marriage as there are a couple of Charles Hartley's in the Bradford area at the right time.

  Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Hi Looking up my family but stuck!!
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 22:38 BST (UK) »


 More name to add to siblings of Emmeline are ....

 Edith born 31 Jan 1833
 Ethel born 20 Jan 1884
 Annie born 27 March 1885
 Elizabeth born 5 Nov 1886
 May born 30 April 1888 all baptised on same day 24 June 1888.
 Father Joseph mother Emma at Billingborough Lincs.

  Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Hi Looking up my family but stuck!!
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 September 09 09:12 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much everyone for your help- It's really appreciated!!
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Bradford
Ireland
HARTLEY
GOY
COOKE
WALKER

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Re: Hi Looking up my family but stuck!!
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 September 09 09:35 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Here is your great grandfather in 1901, but no Charles, probably away at sea!

2 Princes Avenue, Hull (RG13/4506, Folio 189, Page 10)

Emmeline Gertrude Hartley, Wife, M, 24, Lincolnshire, Billingboro
Herbert                       "      , Son, S, 1, Yorkshire, Hull
Elizabeth Goss, Sister, S, 14, No Occupation, Lincolnshire, Billingboro

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Kath
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Re: Hi Looking up my family but stuck!!
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 17 September 09 10:43 BST (UK) »
Hi

This could be Emmeline using her middle name of Gertrude

1891 Billingborough    RG12 2556 F 15 P 1
GOY   Household     1 High Street
Joseph 42 Head Tailor b Timberland Lincs
Emma 39 Wife b Horbling Lincs
Gertrude 15 Daughter B Horbling Lincs
Edward 14 Son Scholar b Billingborough
Herbert 13 Son   "   "          "          "
Arthur 10 Son     "    "         "          "
Edith 8   Dau       "    "         "          "
Ethel 7  Dau        "     "         "          "
Elizabeth 4 Dau                    "         "
May 2 Dau                             "         "
Wilfred 1 Son                         "         "

Claire  :)
Connell Boon Favell Patchett Hinch Hutton Markham Calvert Codd Scullion Linton Martin Coupland Daniel
Day Cook Pepperdine West And many many more

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