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William Milne born Stonehaven 1873
« on: Tuesday 15 September 09 17:59 BST (UK) »
Hello to everyone.

I wonder if anyone can help with a query I have? My Great Grandad, William Milne was listed on the 1911 census living in Gosforth in Newcastle upon Tyne with his family.

William Milne, 38, cartman general, born Stonehaven, Cumberland.
Joan Milne, 32, born Hebburn, Durham
James, 8 (and eleven twelfths, very precise !) born Hebburn, Durham
William, 5 (and seven twelfths) born Gosforth, Northumberland
Ella Robina, 3, born Gosforth, Northumberland

The `Cumberland` is written in a different handwriting so I was wondering if whoever has added this made a mistake in writing it?
Any help would be great.
Tracey
Blackbird - Swalwell, Durham
Aspinall - Newton by Hyde, Ashton Under Lyne, Glossop, Westhoughton
Simpson - Hyde, Cheshire
Milne - Stonehaven, Scotland
Robertson - Dundee
Porter - Alnwick, Northumberland

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Re: William Milne born Stonehaven 1873
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 18:05 BST (UK) »
on the 1901 he is listed as born scotland
RG13/4744/77/38.
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: William Milne born Stonehaven 1873
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 18:10 BST (UK) »
did he have a sister named margaret born scotland 1870 and mother jane born scotland 1841
if so he is again listed in 1891 as being born scotland.
so birthplace cumberland would be wrong
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: William Milne born Stonehaven 1873
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 18:22 BST (UK) »
Hi and thanks for the help.

I have just started looking into my Dad`s side of the family so am starting from the very begining !!

I have also found in the 1891 census:-

John Robbie, 24, married, born Scotland
Margaret Robbie, 21,wife, born Scotland
Jane Milne, (age unreadable) mother in law, widow, born Scotland
William Milne, 17, single, born Scotland

So maybe that is the family. More digging and delving needed I think !!

Thanks again
Kindest regards
Tracey
Blackbird - Swalwell, Durham
Aspinall - Newton by Hyde, Ashton Under Lyne, Glossop, Westhoughton
Simpson - Hyde, Cheshire
Milne - Stonehaven, Scotland
Robertson - Dundee
Porter - Alnwick, Northumberland


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Re: William Milne born Stonehaven 1873
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 18:22 BST (UK) »
and this is the only one i can find that fits perfectly with the other census entries already given
1881
scotland census
william milne age 39. b. kincardinshire. occ. clothbaler(packer. head
jane age 40. b. aberdeen. wife.
margaret age 11. b. ditto. daughter.
william age 7. b. ditto. son.
joan age 5. b. ditto. daughter.
living at;32,up denburn,old machar,aberdeenshire.
reg.dist. old machar.
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: William Milne born Stonehaven 1873
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 September 09 18:12 BST (UK) »
Thanks Wozzle. I think that`s them  :)

I have been doing some internet wandering in the last couple of days.  I think my next step is to trawl through the MI to see if I can find the elder William`s ( born 1842) death. He was alive in 1881 census but Jane was a widow in 1891.

Kindest regards
Tracey
Blackbird - Swalwell, Durham
Aspinall - Newton by Hyde, Ashton Under Lyne, Glossop, Westhoughton
Simpson - Hyde, Cheshire
Milne - Stonehaven, Scotland
Robertson - Dundee
Porter - Alnwick, Northumberland

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Re: William Milne born Stonehaven 1873
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 19:50 BST (UK) »
Hi again everyone  :)

I think I have been looking at the wrong family. This is definitely correct:-

William Milne, 38, cartman general, born Stonehaven, Cumberland.
Joan Milne, 32, born Hebburn, Durham
James, 8 (and eleven twelfths, very precise !) born Hebburn, Durham
William, 5 (and seven twelfths) born Gosforth, Northumberland
Ella Robina, 3, born Gosforth, Northumberland

I have just got the MC for William and Joan. When William and Joan were married in 1901, his father is William Milne (deceased) a farmer.

I have found two possible births in 1873 where the fathers are William Milne, and are listed as farmers:-

William Milne born 25/4/1873 at Windford, Cookney. Mother Isabella Stott
William Milne born 27/10/1873 at South Altons, Nigg. Mother Mary Elmslie


Any help, hints or pointers in the right direction gratefully received. :)
Tracey
Blackbird - Swalwell, Durham
Aspinall - Newton by Hyde, Ashton Under Lyne, Glossop, Westhoughton
Simpson - Hyde, Cheshire
Milne - Stonehaven, Scotland
Robertson - Dundee
Porter - Alnwick, Northumberland

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Re: William Milne born Stonehaven 1873
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 October 09 16:20 BST (UK) »
HI Tracey  :)

there is a wyndford farm approx. half way between cookney and stonehaven
on modern maps , this is to the north of stonehaven
did you get this information from william milne's birth certificate(25/04/1873) ?

1881 wyndford fetteresso kincardineshire
william milne 35 farmer(66 acres) born fetteresso kcd
isabella milne 33 wife born fetteresso kcd
william milne 7 son born fetteresso kcd
isabella stott 74 mother in law retired farmers widow born banchory duk(?) kcd

scotlandspeople has william milne , senior , farmer , wyndford parish of
fetteresso , died 20/03/1896 at wyndford intestate(no will)
inventory(of estate ?) stonehaven sherriff court

although not proof positive it does match what you have so far

ev


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Re: William Milne born Stonehaven 1873
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 October 09 17:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Ev  :)
I went onto SP and looked at 1873 births and there were 4. I know from William`s WC that his father was also called William and was a farmer and was deceased. So of the 4 SP results, only 2 have William`s as father. One in Cookney and one in Nigg.

The one in Nigg has the mother as Mary Elmslie. The Cookney one - Isabella Stott.


Do you have any ideas how I could work out which is the right family? I have credits left on SP, it`s just knowing where to look and at what  ???

Thanks for the help. I need every bit I can get !!!
Regards
Tracey
Blackbird - Swalwell, Durham
Aspinall - Newton by Hyde, Ashton Under Lyne, Glossop, Westhoughton
Simpson - Hyde, Cheshire
Milne - Stonehaven, Scotland
Robertson - Dundee
Porter - Alnwick, Northumberland