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Re: John Oliver birth 1809 Mayfield look up request for his birth record
« Reply #27 on: Monday 16 November 09 10:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Annette

I like the idea of their being wreckers in the family, that's interesting.  My Hannah Oliver married a supposed highwayman and although no proved he was certainly transported to Australia in 1807 for larceny.

I tried to find Elizabeth 1842 baptism but unfortunately the Heathfield records end at 1789 on the online database but of course her baptism may be in the records at Lewes.  I did try the non conformist records too but she didn't appear there. 

For families who lived between Heathfield and Warbleton there is the Heathfield Independent Chapel which should always be checked for baptisms.  For instance I could not find Hannah's last child Elizabeth born 1822 baptism anywhere, then I found it at the Chapel.  After having 2 children out of marriage, 1 of which was not baptised.  Also her husband had been transported some 15 years earlier, I think she was too ashamed to take Elizabeth to Warbleton church.  That's my theory anyway. 

Hannah lived a rather unfortunate life.  She ended up living as a 'housekeeper' for some 40 odd years with a chap (who I believe is probably Elizabeth's father) and we believe that she couldn't remarry believing her husband still alive on the other side of the world.  Unfortunately and probably unknown to her he died in 1821 so she could have remarried!

It is not uncommon for children not to be registered, I have a small number, I think some law was passed in the 1870s to make it compulsory but until then it was more 'voluntary'

Kerry
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Re: John Oliver birth 1809 Mayfield look up request for his birth record
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 13:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kerry,

Do you have a complete line of Olivers going back from your verifiable relations to this 'Gervais' in the 1500s?
I would love to have a copy, if and when I have made a connection with them.

Do you mind me tapping in to your hard work?!

I suppose there MAY be records in the Scilly Isles for the 1500s, and we could see if they tie up with your 'Gervais'

Best wishes,
Annette

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Re: John Oliver birth 1809 Mayfield look up request for his birth record
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 16:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Annette

I have a line going back to the early Olyvers in the 1500s in Sedlescombe but can't go any further back than when the parish register starts.

However I found online some manorial records, shall have to dig out my notes on Friday (day off and left you know) and found some possibilities for the father of the earliest chap I found.

Trouble is I keep downloading information and never get chance to update my tree, investigate it further etc, especially as it was the same time as the London records appeared on Ancestry and I got drawn into my London families  ;D ::)

Kerry
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Re: John Oliver birth 1809 Mayfield look up request for his birth record
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 04 September 11 22:44 BST (UK) »
I know this is an old stream, but does anything anywhere say Mayfield SUSSEX ?????? 
Several censuses for John Oliver appear to say Kent.

There is/was a Mayfield Manor and Mayfield Place in Orpington Kent.
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