chesterfield

[ramsfan]

i wonder if any kind person has access to chesterfield baptism records,i am looking for samuel joseph fokinther born in chesterfield in 1866,we think his mother was ann who then married john brooks in 1870,i have looked on freeb.m.d but i havent found him on there,i have put in different spellings but to no avail thanks in anticipation

[PaulineJ]

If you do npt have the birth on freebmd, can you explain where the birth year & place has come from?

What was the ref for the 1870 marriage?. I cannot see that in FreeBMD either.

Pauline

[Tati]

Hi both 

Samuel Jos is on the 1871 census, Pauline (grandson to Joseph & Jane Fokinther, with Ann Brooks in the household)

Ann's shown as Ann Forkinther when she marries in 1870.

Little Joseph is shown as nephew to Ann and John Brooks in 1881 
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=2824456
RG11/3429 115 12

[ramsfan]

hi tati,it's all so confusing,on the 1871 census it says ann brooks is his mother,i sent for his marriage certificate when he married my great gran in 1886 but there is no father on it thanks anyway tati

[Gardener]

hi tati,it's all so confusing,on the 1871 census it says ann brooks is his mother,i sent for his marriage certificate when he married my great gran in 1886 but there is no father on it thanks anyway tati

I don't think the 1871 says anything other than Samuel Joseph is grandson to Joseph Fokinther.
Is it possible that Samuel Joseph was the son of one of the other girls? Then he could be John Brooks' nephew.

I can't find Mathilda or Jane Fokinther in the 1871 census, can you? Did they marry or what? The youngest seems to be a servant in Brimington in 1871, aged 19 - she is rather young to be mother of Samuel Joseph but not impossible I suppose - Brimington is a spit from Chesterfield.

So how about Samuel Joseph was son of one of Ann's sisters, lived with his grandparents in 1871 and then with Ann in 1881? Perhaps his mother died or his stepfather didn't want him, or it was better for work.

[Gardener]

Did Jane marry Oliver Toplis (2nd marriage for him possibly) in 1869 (Jane Folkington)?
And perhaps Matilda married Thomas Wilcockson? (can't find the marriage)