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Ship 'Leda' 1861 census information?
« on: Saturday 12 September 09 19:06 BST (UK) »
I have my gt gr father John Boshell, mistranscribed as Bashull aged 19, a seaman passenger on board 'Leda', in 1861 census. Where can I  find more information about her voyage?
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Re: Ship 'Leda' 1861 census information?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 12 September 09 19:47 BST (UK) »
There are 7 vessels called 'Leda' in the 1861 census - yours was assigned #6.


She was docked in Falmouth on April 8th, 1861.

Her home port was Waterford.

The SS Leda was a Steamship of 626 tons, engaged in 'Home & Foreign' trade.

Google search may reveal more .....  :)
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Re: Ship 'Leda' 1861 census information?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 September 09 09:09 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much! Is there a specific site I need to look at for crew lists and info on individual sailors? How do you know she was   # 6 ?
Kooky
Clulo - Staffs.,Warwickshire, Lancs.1780 -1950
Fisher- Nafferton,Hull, Manchester.1770-1840-1950
Kane&McNeill,Forkhill, Armagh and Glasgow,Bray Dublin.1850s -1920
Boshell and Dowzard- Dublin, 1840s -1911
Kay/Bremner Edinburgh 1800 - 1841.Kay Staffs.& Lancs1842 -1901
Kay - Newcastle on Tyne 1780-1861
Swindell, Marple & Manchester 1900->
Makinson, M/c & Prestwich 1870 ->
Beacom/Jones - Enniskillen 1780 ->

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Re: Ship 'Leda' 1861 census information?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 13 September 09 09:23 BST (UK) »
In the (1861) census, vessels in Port were recorded as if they were Census 'districts'

Looking down the list of such districts, there were 7 called LEDA - the one on which your John B was recorded was shown as LEDA (6)


Sorry, I dont know about crew lists etc - maybe open a new thread with that specific question?
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Re: Ship 'Leda' 1861 census information?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 13 September 09 09:24 BST (UK) »
Gosh that was quick! Thank you again.
Kooky
Clulo - Staffs.,Warwickshire, Lancs.1780 -1950
Fisher- Nafferton,Hull, Manchester.1770-1840-1950
Kane&McNeill,Forkhill, Armagh and Glasgow,Bray Dublin.1850s -1920
Boshell and Dowzard- Dublin, 1840s -1911
Kay/Bremner Edinburgh 1800 - 1841.Kay Staffs.& Lancs1842 -1901
Kay - Newcastle on Tyne 1780-1861
Swindell, Marple & Manchester 1900->
Makinson, M/c & Prestwich 1870 ->
Beacom/Jones - Enniskillen 1780 ->

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Re: Ship 'Leda' 1861 census information?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 27 March 16 12:15 BST (UK) »
Leda launched 27th March 1854.

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Re: Ship 'Leda' 1861 census information?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 March 16 23:12 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much! Is there a specific site I need to look at for crew lists and info on individual sailors? How do you know she was   # 6 ?
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As Merchant Navy Central individual Personal Records were not kept between 1857 and 1913, the only way to search for your ancestors seagoing records is to trace him via Crew Agreements.
 Your starting point. Crew Agreements for the year 1861 are stored at NMM Greenwich
http://www.rmg.co.uk/national-maritime-museum/caird-library/crew-lists-agreements-official-logs-request-form
Or better still a visit.
TNA Kew have about 10% for those years but MUN in Newfoundland has 90%  1863 -1974 and you can look at some of their data base on line.
https://www.mun.ca/mha/
NMM Greenwich holds Years ending in "5" together with most 1861 and 1862.  As well as the 10% mentioned, TNA has Crew agreements from both world wars. Some Crew Agreements especially early ones are held at Local Records offices.
If Necromancer has the correct vessel, her Official number is 27848. This a unique number to that vessel no matter how many changes she had as long as she remained on the British Register.

As far as I am aware only Crew Agreements for the years 1881 and 1915 are available on line.
The "CLIP" project via FindMyPast has various Crew Agreements 1861-1913 on line but is far from complete. Did a quick search on FindMyPast, plenty of John Bushalls etc. You would have to do a through search from 1861-1913.
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