COURTNAGE family, Lurgashall/Bepon

[janan]

Hi Lesley

I wonder if this could be the missing marriage?

Henry Courtney to Charlotte Trusler 4th Dec 1824 in Frensham Surrey

It is an extracted entry on the IGI

Frensham is about 5 miles north of Headley

Jan

[cardiffbay]

Hello Jan,
This does sound promising.  I have never found this extraction via the IGI and I did a UK search for Courtnage wihich usually throws up all variations of the spelling of the surname.  Thank you so much, I will investigate this.
Kind Regards

Lesley

[janan]

Encouragingly there are no children in Frensham (or indeed Surrey) except a Henry who is baptised Sep 1835 - this is the same year as Henry baptised in Headley, so may be a second baptism

Jan

[cardiffbay]

Hello again Jan,
Interestingly enough, I looked through Sussex, Surrey and Hampshire IGI bases for a possible birth for Charlotte Trussler and I found one suitable baptism on the 16th November 1800 in Petworth.  The parents were named as John & Mary Trussler.  I think the Trussler's may have  potentially had a connection to Headley, as I then found a buriel for a Mary Trussler.
It is obviously a previous generation, but I noted a Mary Trussler (spelt that way)  Born in 1750 in Frensham, Surrey - Baptised on 22nd June 1751 same place and buried on 15th April 1802 in Headley. Her parents were John Trussler and Mary. So,perhaps Henry Courtney/Courtnage was working in or around around Frensham when he met and/or married Charlotte, and they moved back because both families had a connection to Headley?
I did manage to download one set of stripped census returns for Headley in 1841/1851  off Mr.Smith. I note that James who was baptised in 1825 was whilst Henry & Charlotte(potentially Trusler)were also living in the Parish House in Headley as were Henry & Charlotte Snr. 
Mr.Smith tells me this was not a workhouse exactly, but it was a place people could go who had very little money.
This is looking a little more promising Jan don't you think?
Regards,
Lesley

[janan]

Hi Lesley

I agree it is all looking very promising indeed

For the sake of completeness I had a look for a death for Charlotte wife of Henry junior between Emily's birth and the 1841 census and found

Charlotte Courtenage death Jan qtr 1839 Farnham Registration District Vol 4 Pg75

Jan

[janan]

Lesley

I've just been on John Owen Smith's site where the Headley baptisms are available - have you seen them? Henry senior and Henry junior were baptising children overlapping! I hope you can get to look at it as there are comments (saying which children belong to Henry senior and which to Henry junior), abode and occuption. I am excited and they aren't even my family  If you still don't manage to view them I will let you know who belongs to who here but I would rather you have the chance of seeing them in all their glory first.

Jan

[cardiffbay]

Well Hello Jan

I am so overwhelmed with excitement! I have indeed looked at it and separated all the families out. I am ever more confident about the marriage of Henry Junior to Charlotte Trusler too. At least from this, we now know which children belong to Father & Son.
I am now turning my attention to Henry Senior who I believe was baptised 21st Feb 1768 in Farnhurst.  I admit I have done this by process of illimination.
I also believe his parents were John Courtnage and Sarah Bridger. I believe this because John Courtnage named his first son (2nd child) after himself and Henry was his 4th child.  Henry of 1768 also named one of his Son's John.
Henry of 1768 also had a brother called Thomas who I believe was a witness on the marriage entry when Henry married Sarah Mitchell in 1775 in in Farnhurst.
John & Sarah's first 4 children are all born in Farnhurst, but when Thomas is born they are in Lurgashall and we have the connection to this village already.
John Courtnage was baptised 27th Sept 1738  in Farnhurst -Sarah was baptised 2nd March 1738 in Lodsworth.
I think I can go one even better Jan. I believe that John Courtnage's parents were Henry Courtney and Hannah Cox. I was thrown a little as their marriage was 8th January 1732 in St.Martins in the Fields, Westminster.
I am told by Sussex Record Office that during this time, this Church was a very popular and fashionable place to marry and many people travelled to London to get married and then returned to their respective parish/county.
If I am correct, the latter two had Ann 1734;Henry 1735;Elizabeth1738 (all baptised in St.Martins - they return to Farnhurst and baptise John in September 1738?  My only query is Elizabeth being baptised in the same year albeit in June 1738 what do you think Jan?
Its lovely to know that someone else can get so terribly excited. I won't sleep tonight thinking about this - am I sad or what?
I just love family history so much, I am totally obsessed -sorry about that Jan.
Kind Regards

Lesley

[janan]

Hi Lesley

So glad you were able to access the baptisms

I think your tracking back to Farnhurst for Henry senior makes sense - but his baptism is a member submitted record so would need checking on the Farnhurst registers. I'm not so sure about the Henry Courtney and Hannah Cox marriage though - there are other children being born to a Henry Courtnage (no mother given as was common back then, I mean what have women got to do with having babies ?? )  in Farnhurst from 1720 so he maybe the father of John 1738, which is also a submitted record - again the registers need careful checking. This site

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/

helps look at extracted IGI records by parish, but as with the Headley records they are minus those all important comments.

I can check the Farnhurst registers for you at some point if you aren't able to - let me know.

Hope you got some sleep
Best wishes
Jan

[cardiffbay]

Hello Jan,
Just to saythank you again for sending me this web address. I've had visitors for dinner tonight so I haven't had time to look at anything. I've had a very harrowing few weeks with work lately and feel so tired.
Once I've had a look I will let you know.
Kind Regards

Lesley