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Re: John Mackenzie, film cameraman
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 15 September 09 23:56 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone

Somehow my Rootschat has stopped notifying me of updates on this topic  :'( so I'm catching up.

First of all, Stephen thank you so  much for sharing the article on John  - absolutely facinating to read. I felt really happy to see him being recognized in print, and the things it confirmed that we could only imagine from piecing together the Census.  For me the part about him getting hooked on fiilm and following his dream despite a growing family and head-shaking elders - was the best part!  I had wondered, once I found him on the Census with Effie & the children, changing occupations  and charging off into the wide world with his bioscope etc,  how it all went down with the family.  If one puts that together with the mentions of his character in Harry de Windt's book - one gets quite a picture of John as a person. And for early publication of your blog (with it's  Rootschat mention to boot)   - we're honoured. 

Make sure you tell us when your work is published!

And I've found a descendant - I hope.....follows

Cheers
AMBLY
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Re: John Mackenzie, film cameraman
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 00:07 BST (UK) »
Have been doing some more digging  -  from the IGI worked out that John's mother Elizabeth FERGUSON: her mother was one Isabella BROTCHIE who was born in England abt 1810 and her father was  a John FERGUSON.

Can find Isabella and children on the Census 1841 to 1881 - and she's living for the most part either with or next door to Elizabeth.  I can post the Census here, if anyone wants or else I'll just send it to Stephen by PM

The most interesting thing to come out ot that is......at least 2 of  Isabella's  son's (Elizabeth's brothers, John's uncles)  are Watchmakers and Jewellers in Inverness. One of them James, at age 26 was an employer of 5 men and 2 boys in his business.  So that is obviously where our John MacKENZIE 'inherited' his first career - possibly apprenticed to one of his Uncles, probably James,  Can't find out if his grandfather John FERGUSON was also in the same trade - think he was dead by 1851 and I can't find them on 1841 yet.

The MOST interesting thing is: I think James FERGUSON became notable in his trade and is the maker of a fine clock listed here, for sale :

http://www.ianburton.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=1&cat=Latest+Stock
http://www.antiques.co.uk/antique/Antique-Scottish-Longcase-Clock-2
"Antique Scottish Drumhead Longcase Clock.
James Ferguson, Inverness.
Circa 1880  - Rare, corinthian column mahogany case in nice original condition"

"James Ferguson is recorded as working from 1886-9 in Edinburgh and from 1872-81 in Inverness. He received a Royal appointment to Queen Victoria in 1872"

And , if you've got a spare 7500 quid, it can be yours!!    ;D  ;D

Also  found Naturalisation records in the US for  John's children:
Gerald, Ian/Jack, Allan, Arthur, Lillian so far - no doubt it's them, since they all reference their immigration into the US on the "Majestic" on 8 May 1913 with Mum, Effie (which we have found earlier in this topic).

As part of Ian's Petition for Naturalization, he requested his name be legally changed to "Jack MacKENZIE" this was granted when he swore the Oath of Allegiance and was Natturalised in 1927.

I also discovered, Lillian did marry - to a man also surnamed MacKENZIE. Not sure if she had children. In 1930 she was working as a Film Cutter in a Movie studio.

Arthur was not 'in the business' and was a Tax Agents assist.Clerk/Secretary in varying records.

Now after all that - I have found a tree on A* descended from Allan MacKENZIE, John's son. ( I checked A*s trees early in the piece when I still thought John  was born abt 1867 and had a wife named Ida - and didn't look again till now).  And Yay!

This tree, also places John  as the son of William MacKENZIE & Elizabeth FERGUSON (and names Elizabeth's mother as Isabella BROTCHIE). It references some BDM dates, Soc Security records, Cal. Death records etc  and takes the lines back beyond John  a couple of generations in each case. Some of it may have come from extracted IGI records, but some of the death dates can surely only have come from a Scottish Certificate so I feel the tree is entirely accurate as presented.  In  each family on the tree only one child is named - ie: John FERGUSON & Isabella  BROTCHIE - dau: Elizabeth, William MacKENZIE & Elizabeth FERGUSON: son John, John MacKENZIE & Euphemia CALLUM: son Allan. There is no biographical information, no Census have been quoted.

The tree descends to present day to someone  - the tree owner - who is listed as  3x grandaughter  of John.

Allan MacKENZIE, was unmarried & a Cameraman when he was Declared Intention for Naturalization in 1922. Assuming the tree is correct by 1930 he was married with a son and was no longer in the movie industry, he stated he was a Salesman in a Cotton Mill.

Given the propensity for living to old age, I would say there is a good chance some or all  of Gerald's children or Jack's children are still living - for that reason, even though we can find them on the 1930 Census, we shouldn't really be naming them on here?  :-\    Allan's son as named on the tree is deceased, in 1998 in Washington. But his son and grandchildren are  living - the tree owner being one of those grandchildren.

I will PM you Stephen!

PS; According to the A* tree - there is a connection for John's family in Aberdeen (ref: Harry de Windt's book)  - his wife Euphemia CALLUM's  mother was born there, and her father before that.


Cheers
AMBLY
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Re: John Mackenzie, film cameraman
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 17 September 09 01:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Ambly, This is all great. John's family background in watchmaking would indeed help to explain his own involvement, and then I'd suggest that this kind of accurate work would be good preparation for his later career as optician, photographer and cameraman. Your other findings show that most of John's children, like him, were in the film business for a while at least: he may have been a little proud that he started them off that way. Then the naturalisation material adds further details, including confirmation of the change of name of John's son to Jack. And then your finding the A* trail is excellent icing on the cake! Thanks very much.
I am researching people who worked in the early film industry, from the 1890s to about 1920.

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Re: John Mackenzie, film cameraman
« Reply #21 on: Friday 10 December 21 18:01 GMT (UK) »
  John Mackenzie was my great-grandfather.  I do have a family tree and family history.  John had 8 children with Euphemia, one of whom died in infancy.  Lillian did marry, but she married a man whose last name was Mackenzie, so her name never changed.  John’s eldest was my grandfather, Gerald.  He worked for Technicolor for many years. 
You can contact me if you need further info. How would we do this privately?