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Re: Convicted by civil powers. For what?
« Reply #18 on: Monday 05 October 09 16:55 BST (UK) »
In view of this discovery, I wonder whether he was convicted of a capital offence and executed? Or hopefully, he just left the country after a scandal.
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Re: Convicted by civil powers. For what?
« Reply #19 on: Monday 05 October 09 17:57 BST (UK) »
Nothing as drastic as that.
Just a case of being recorded twice in the census. His family was living in Birmingham, so I think his wife may have thought he was born there. He was born in Lutterworth in1882. His mother Georgina was the next of kin when he joined the army. and we know his wife was Mary Alice.
I am now waiting for the postman to bring me a copy of his army records. hopefully there may be something helpful in that. Still trying to find newspaper articles.

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« Reply #20 on: Monday 05 October 09 18:12 BST (UK) »
Pleased about that Muttly, as I found out to my horror a few years ago.Hopefully the army records will have sufficient information. As he was in barracks on census night I wonder if he was on remand waiting to be passed forward to the Civilian authorities, might get a clue from the original census document.
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Re: Convicted by civil powers. For what?
« Reply #21 on: Monday 05 October 09 19:21 BST (UK) »
So he was a mere lad of 18 at marriage and when he was discharged.  It says a lot for his wife that she stuck by him and they were still together in 1911.  A lot of marriages fail for a lot less these days!
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BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Convicted by civil powers. For what?
« Reply #22 on: Monday 05 October 09 22:07 BST (UK) »
I don't know if she was aware of his correct age. When they married 3 weeks earlier he said he was 27! She was 24, but it seems like a huge age difference to invent.
They stayed together,and had 4 children.
She was actually from Yorkshire so maybe it was a case of it being too far to go home.

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« Reply #23 on: Monday 05 October 09 23:01 BST (UK) »
 :D

Well us Yorkies stick like glue.

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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 17:10 BST (UK) »
Very true, from an adopted Tyke now in exile.
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Re: Convicted by civil powers. For what?
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 21:56 BST (UK) »
What is your definition of Tyke?
My family always thought we were real "cockneys" until I discovered that all my maternal side comes from  "North of Watford'!   In fact most came from between  Leeds and the lake district. So i';m not sure now what we are!

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Re: Convicted by civil powers. For what?
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 22:27 BST (UK) »
1. an unpleasant or coarse man.  2. a mongrel.  3. a small child.  4. Brit. slang a Yorkshireman.  [From Old Norse tik 'pregnant dog'].  Source: Oxford Compact Dictionary.

I've only heard it down south in context of a small child!

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That 'pregnant dog' has been automatically substituted online by the powers-that-be for the original b i t c h!
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SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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